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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4841724" data-attributes="member: 70874">No, I did. My crit damage expression for the 2.1 was 3d6 @ paragon, or +10.5 damage or +1.05 avg/dmg swing of the 2.1 dmg/swing bonus from the extra crit. Its a full half of the bonus average damage you gain from the property change.With a vicious weapon that is +1.9 dmg/swing upping your damage by .85 at the margin. Add in on top of that a d8 sneak attack die and you're looking at a total of +3.25dmg/swingOn a 3[W] attack, a rapier gains roughly +2 dmg/hit per W, or an average of 3 dmg/swing @ 50% hit rate[dagger will be +1 to hit ahead, but its not that much of a difference]. On a 2[W] attack its 2 dmg/swing from the rapier, nearly as much as the advantage from dagger master.For instnace if you're a charisma rogue you can run shadow assaasin and get another d6 sneak attack against bloodied enemies and +dex damage each time you're missed. Since youhave a nice bonus to your AC against OA's[and since attacks against you by marked creatures are likely to trigger extra damage from your defender or at least add another +6 damage over 50% of the time] you're ahead in raw DPR simply by provoking an OA once/round. Not even counting the fact that half the time you get another +3.5 avg dmg/attack[1.75/swing vs bloodied, .875 dmg/all swings] This brings your pre-weapon mastery damage difference to around .5 between the two[ignoring extra damage caused by triggering OA's intentionally]</blockquote>

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