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<blockquote data-quote="Laurefindel" data-source="post: 8791790" data-attributes="member: 67296"><p>Sorry I'll try to be clearer.</p><p></p><p>My overall position is that I like the idea of finesse on versatile longsword, and that I don't think Dex is already too powerful as is.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, I also concedes that Dex builds would now have access to a d10 weapon, which didn't used to be the case. For me it doesn't cause any issues because rapier+dueling is already equivalent (if not superior) to versatile longsword+great-weapon fighting, and two-weapon fighting might even be better than both with the removal of bonus action requirement.</p><p></p><p>Without fighting styles, straight d10 is objectively better than straight d8. I'm not convinced that two attacks at d6 each, with stat bonus applying to the first attack only, is strictly superior to (1x) d10+stat, but its probably slightly better than 1d8+stat. Comparative average damage probably vary given what target number is required, but I'm not that good at probabilities. Throw a shield in there and one-handed d8 returns as king.</p><p></p><p>So all in all, I do believe that finesse on versatile longsword is a boost to Dex builds, but a rather modest and benign one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Laurefindel, post: 8791790, member: 67296"] Sorry I'll try to be clearer. My overall position is that I like the idea of finesse on versatile longsword, and that I don't think Dex is already too powerful as is. At the same time, I also concedes that Dex builds would now have access to a d10 weapon, which didn't used to be the case. For me it doesn't cause any issues because rapier+dueling is already equivalent (if not superior) to versatile longsword+great-weapon fighting, and two-weapon fighting might even be better than both with the removal of bonus action requirement. Without fighting styles, straight d10 is objectively better than straight d8. I'm not convinced that two attacks at d6 each, with stat bonus applying to the first attack only, is strictly superior to (1x) d10+stat, but its probably slightly better than 1d8+stat. Comparative average damage probably vary given what target number is required, but I'm not that good at probabilities. Throw a shield in there and one-handed d8 returns as king. So all in all, I do believe that finesse on versatile longsword is a boost to Dex builds, but a rather modest and benign one. [/QUOTE]
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