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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9051022" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>The claymore is a longsword scientifically. The reason why the claymore is also a "D&D" "Versatile" "Longsword" is, one can wield the claymore with either one or two hands.</p><p></p><p>A D&D Greatsword cannot be wielded one-handed. So it really is an even longer bladelength than a claymore. Historically, these kinds of extremely long swords behave more like polearms do.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, reach. In my list of D&D sword types.</p><p></p><p>Shortsword 1d6 Slash/Pierce (Finesse, Light)</p><p>Katana 1d6 Slash/Pierce (Finesse, Versatile 1d10)</p><p>Sword 1d8 Slash/Pierce (Finesse)</p><p>Longsword 1d8 Slash (Versatile 1d12)</p><p>Greatsword 1d12 Slash (Heavy, Reach, Two-Handed)</p><p></p><p>So, this Greatsword stat does have the Reach property. This Reach implies a bladelength at least 5 feet. Also remember the hilt tends to be long, and the wielder makes lunges while fighting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah. Sometimes the term "sabre" is used for these oversized horseback weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Heh, for a "Greatsword", I think this:</p><p><img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F44%2F2e%2F54%2F442e5472f54c9b49c0e36bf8d714b062.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5ad501387349bc855b7dfdd76ca3dfb2c88f30f8535ae1c74923be69ace884c7&ipo=images" alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F44%2F2e%2F54%2F442e5472f54c9b49c0e36bf8d714b062.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5ad501387349bc855b7dfdd76ca3dfb2c88f30f8535ae1c74923be69ace884c7&ipo=images" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>and this:<img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F3a%2F17%2F15%2F3a1715b0aa691d6d81d8942298492baa.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=189cfe494393c9dc5209dde28783e43f12c7d984db23564d9f10739b39122af4&ipo=images" alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F3a%2F17%2F15%2F3a1715b0aa691d6d81d8942298492baa.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=189cfe494393c9dc5209dde28783e43f12c7d984db23564d9f10739b39122af4&ipo=images" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>and even this:</p><p><img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F19%2F15%2F0c%2F19150c5857ab02d26c273a641b6a8086.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a4c61f1cec2c919061932b8793a1a624d3f9a18b6c234c4dcc5a4e64ea67604b&ipo=images" alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F19%2F15%2F0c%2F19150c5857ab02d26c273a641b6a8086.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a4c61f1cec2c919061932b8793a1a624d3f9a18b6c234c4dcc5a4e64ea67604b&ipo=images" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>But other players are thinking this:</p><p><img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F10%2Fc8%2F43%2F10c843693087b02d4cbea9fe828e650e--character-reference-character-concept.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=68c3bf574971a5f50efcca0decf87039edb3ee1f6559ec5f9b5e6c943d572530&ipo=images" alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F10%2Fc8%2F43%2F10c843693087b02d4cbea9fe828e650e--character-reference-character-concept.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=68c3bf574971a5f50efcca0decf87039edb3ee1f6559ec5f9b5e6c943d572530&ipo=images" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p>and this:</p><p><img src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgameplay.tips%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2017-04%2F1491859806_ds3.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96a54e8921bc10bc070384093b5461b0add3b3f1d6177b75c96aefde146bc562&ipo=images" alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgameplay.tips%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2017-04%2F1491859806_ds3.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96a54e8921bc10bc070384093b5461b0add3b3f1d6177b75c96aefde146bc562&ipo=images" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For me, a "Greatsword" means moreorless the whole sword is longer than the person is tall. So it is more like a polearm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9051022, member: 58172"] The claymore is a longsword scientifically. The reason why the claymore is also a "D&D" "Versatile" "Longsword" is, one can wield the claymore with either one or two hands. A D&D Greatsword cannot be wielded one-handed. So it really is an even longer bladelength than a claymore. Historically, these kinds of extremely long swords behave more like polearms do. Yes, reach. In my list of D&D sword types. Shortsword 1d6 Slash/Pierce (Finesse, Light) Katana 1d6 Slash/Pierce (Finesse, Versatile 1d10) Sword 1d8 Slash/Pierce (Finesse) Longsword 1d8 Slash (Versatile 1d12) Greatsword 1d12 Slash (Heavy, Reach, Two-Handed) So, this Greatsword stat does have the Reach property. This Reach implies a bladelength at least 5 feet. Also remember the hilt tends to be long, and the wielder makes lunges while fighting. Yeah. Sometimes the term "sabre" is used for these oversized horseback weapons. Heh, for a "Greatsword", I think this: [IMG alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F44%2F2e%2F54%2F442e5472f54c9b49c0e36bf8d714b062.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5ad501387349bc855b7dfdd76ca3dfb2c88f30f8535ae1c74923be69ace884c7&ipo=images"]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F44%2F2e%2F54%2F442e5472f54c9b49c0e36bf8d714b062.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=5ad501387349bc855b7dfdd76ca3dfb2c88f30f8535ae1c74923be69ace884c7&ipo=images[/IMG] and this:[IMG alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F3a%2F17%2F15%2F3a1715b0aa691d6d81d8942298492baa.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=189cfe494393c9dc5209dde28783e43f12c7d984db23564d9f10739b39122af4&ipo=images"]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F3a%2F17%2F15%2F3a1715b0aa691d6d81d8942298492baa.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=189cfe494393c9dc5209dde28783e43f12c7d984db23564d9f10739b39122af4&ipo=images[/IMG] and even this: [IMG alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F19%2F15%2F0c%2F19150c5857ab02d26c273a641b6a8086.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a4c61f1cec2c919061932b8793a1a624d3f9a18b6c234c4dcc5a4e64ea67604b&ipo=images"]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F19%2F15%2F0c%2F19150c5857ab02d26c273a641b6a8086.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a4c61f1cec2c919061932b8793a1a624d3f9a18b6c234c4dcc5a4e64ea67604b&ipo=images[/IMG] But other players are thinking this: [IMG alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F10%2Fc8%2F43%2F10c843693087b02d4cbea9fe828e650e--character-reference-character-concept.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=68c3bf574971a5f50efcca0decf87039edb3ee1f6559ec5f9b5e6c943d572530&ipo=images"]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F10%2Fc8%2F43%2F10c843693087b02d4cbea9fe828e650e--character-reference-character-concept.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=68c3bf574971a5f50efcca0decf87039edb3ee1f6559ec5f9b5e6c943d572530&ipo=images[/IMG] and this: [IMG alt="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgameplay.tips%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2017-04%2F1491859806_ds3.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96a54e8921bc10bc070384093b5461b0add3b3f1d6177b75c96aefde146bc562&ipo=images"]https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fgameplay.tips%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2017-04%2F1491859806_ds3.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=96a54e8921bc10bc070384093b5461b0add3b3f1d6177b75c96aefde146bc562&ipo=images[/IMG] For me, a "Greatsword" means moreorless the whole sword is longer than the person is tall. So it is more like a polearm. [/QUOTE]
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