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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3102003" data-attributes="member: 19675">Re: creature size vs mass of weapons.  When I worked out regularly, I was a beast.  My lower body was ridiculously strong for my height- at 5'3" in HS, I could easily leg press 700lbs for 10 reps- but my upper body strength (for certain lifts) was a question mark.  While bigger guys could easily grasp the bar for a clean and jerk, I couldn't.  My hands were a tad small.  Even though I could easily shift the weight (at the time, 220lbs- a mere 30lbs more than my bench press), I invariably dropped the bar at about waist height.  A few years and a few growth-spurts later, it was no longer a problem*...  But its not like I'm huge now- I'm only 5'7."  Yet that 3" difference in height (and proportionate change in hand size) made ALL the difference.  And that is far less a difference than between an average human and an average halfling.By analogy, a creature that is slightly small may be able to handle the weapon, but his grip will not be as secure as the creature for whom it was designed.  He might be fine and dandy waving it around...but it might fly out of his hands after the first solid strike in combat.The hypothetical judge here would ask you to provide RW examples...which would be provided by scale models and demonstrations...which would show the difficulty a small person would have using a weapon sized for someone who is the size of a normal adult, and would also show the awkwardness of downscaled items in the hands of normal adults.We now also have several people in this thread who have related to you personal experience with ill-sized weapons and cutlery.  To a person, they denoted that awkwardness.But you don't buy it- so be it- play your game with the 3.0 rules.  Or make up rules you like.* There is a weightlifter whose name escapes me who was in the same boat.  He entered a strongman competition in which one of the events was to clean & jerk a certain weight fitted on a train axle.  He couldn't grip it properly, and kept dropping it.  His solution- he got it moving quickly, let it go, and caught it- completing the lift.  Pictures of it were published in Muscle & Fitness back in the late 1980's.</blockquote>

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