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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 6944080" data-attributes="member: 6799649">I've played every edition of D&D from 1E in the late '70s (including Pathfinder) to 5E now. In every single edition I tried to make my favourite type of character: an unarmoured, rapier-wielding, Dex-based warrior who could compete with Str-based concepts. I failed.Until 5E.In 1E and 2E, your Str needed to be 16 or higher in order for it to matter for attack and damage. An average Str high Dex fighter would make little impact on the enemy, and such a PC would have to wait for Bracers of Defence before it would be safe to leave the house unarmoured.In 3E, you could have an 18 Str and you would be +4 to hit and +4 or +6 to damage (1H or 2H), no feat expenditure required.You could have 18 Dex instead, and if you took the Weapon Finesse feat you would be +4 to hit but +0 to damage. You had one less feat and were still 6 damage behind!Pathfinder recently tried to address this with an actual Swashbucker base class. Opinions vary, but in my opinion it failed! It failed because even though the design aim was a high Dex high Cha warrior wielding a rapier, the way the class abilities were worded then the optimal Swashbuckler was a high Dex low Cha dwarf wielding a light pick!But 5E! When I first played 5E I could finally, straight out of the box at 1st level and without spending a feat, finally have a Dex based swashbuckler-type, lightly armoured (actually unarmoured; my 1st level vuman feat was Magic Initiate taking mage armour) that wasn't automatically inferior to a Str based build.That, and the fact that all my attacks except one didn't automatically disappear if I moved 10 feet instead of 5 feet, meant that I never looked back.So no, I would never contemplate changing 5E so that finesse weapons wouldn't use Dex for damage. I've been wanting it for nearly forty years!</blockquote>

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