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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1191057" data-attributes="member: 892"><p>I agree, that does seem odd. Even if everything Frank Trollman said were true (and "Frank"ly, I have to take with a grain of salt anything said by someone with "Troll" in his moniker) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, that would only explain why, at one time (like, 20 years or so ago), he was reviled by (some) D&D players -- not why he would be reviled by D&D players today. Why would younger gamers care about what happened 20 years ago? As for older gamers, the idea of some middle-aged gamer holding a grudge against Gygax for decades on end seems a trifle odd to me. I have this vision of an old lady at a Con that Gary is at going "booo! booo! booo!" a la The Princess Bride (and I don't mean just Lorraine Williams) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Interestingly, I think William Shatner went through a similer period (loved -- then reviled (by some) -- then loved again). So did Joe Clark (for you Canadians out there) and John Deifenbaker (for you OLD Canadians out there) and John A MacDonald (for you old, DEAD Canadians out there). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I think as far as most gamers are concerned today, if they think of Gary Gygax at all, it is as "The Dude who, like, invented the Game. Now pass me a Mountain Dew!" I am not going to get into a debate as to whether most people would be correct to think this (orange juice is healthier, after all), but I do think that is how most people who play D&D think of Gygax, if they are even aware of him. "Reviling" him seems a very strange thing for the average contemporary gamer to do.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think of him as a Rock Star (well, sort of). His past foibles are irrelevant to me -- he is in the D&D Pantheon as a Greater God (and Eric Noah, you get to be a Saint). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1191057, member: 892"] I agree, that does seem odd. Even if everything Frank Trollman said were true (and "Frank"ly, I have to take with a grain of salt anything said by someone with "Troll" in his moniker) :), that would only explain why, at one time (like, 20 years or so ago), he was reviled by (some) D&D players -- not why he would be reviled by D&D players today. Why would younger gamers care about what happened 20 years ago? As for older gamers, the idea of some middle-aged gamer holding a grudge against Gygax for decades on end seems a trifle odd to me. I have this vision of an old lady at a Con that Gary is at going "booo! booo! booo!" a la The Princess Bride (and I don't mean just Lorraine Williams) :) Interestingly, I think William Shatner went through a similer period (loved -- then reviled (by some) -- then loved again). So did Joe Clark (for you Canadians out there) and John Deifenbaker (for you OLD Canadians out there) and John A MacDonald (for you old, DEAD Canadians out there). :) I think as far as most gamers are concerned today, if they think of Gary Gygax at all, it is as "The Dude who, like, invented the Game. Now pass me a Mountain Dew!" I am not going to get into a debate as to whether most people would be correct to think this (orange juice is healthier, after all), but I do think that is how most people who play D&D think of Gygax, if they are even aware of him. "Reviling" him seems a very strange thing for the average contemporary gamer to do. Personally, I think of him as a Rock Star (well, sort of). His past foibles are irrelevant to me -- he is in the D&D Pantheon as a Greater God (and Eric Noah, you get to be a Saint). :) [/QUOTE]
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