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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7747465" data-attributes="member: 20564">As a serious question, what are the alternatives?Let's put forth that a caster spending actions casting damage all day and a weapon wielder spending actions to attack all day should average out to be about the same.&nbsp; This is grossly unfair - the caster has a lot more flexibility so should really be lower, but let's take this as the absolute best a caster should be doing.So, if some actions spent by the caster are more powerful than a weapon wielder, then some need to be less powerful.&nbsp; That's the current balance.&nbsp; You can't take away the less powerful without throwing the classes well out of balance.The alternative is to make the caster the same as the weapon wielder.&nbsp; For things like area of effect that really breaks up the damage tiny - a fireball might do 5-10 points of damage in a 20'r to be on par with one actions worth of melee attack.&nbsp; And that's generous because it compensates some for a weapon able to focus fire.Would you prefer PF to move from the first to the second?&nbsp; Are there other solutions you see?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7747465, member: 20564"] As a serious question, what are the alternatives? Let's put forth that a caster spending actions casting damage all day and a weapon wielder spending actions to attack all day should average out to be about the same. This is grossly unfair - the caster has a lot more flexibility so should really be lower, but let's take this as the absolute best a caster should be doing. So, if some actions spent by the caster are more powerful than a weapon wielder, then some need to be less powerful. That's the current balance. You can't take away the less powerful without throwing the classes well out of balance. The alternative is to make the caster the same as the weapon wielder. For things like area of effect that really breaks up the damage tiny - a fireball might do 5-10 points of damage in a 20'r to be on par with one actions worth of melee attack. And that's generous because it compensates some for a weapon able to focus fire. Would you prefer PF to move from the first to the second? Are there other solutions you see? [/QUOTE]

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