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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5565029" data-attributes="member: 95493">After reading everything else in this thread I'm thoroughly confused.The feral template is a +1 Level Adjust. Based on the Savage Species.It gains extra abilities based on its Hit Dice. Also from Savage Species.However!According to Gestalt in the Unearthed Arcana. A player doesn't have twice the HD just because they have twice the bonuses from classes.A 4th level human fighter/wizard - having the best traits and abilities from both fighter and wizard is still only a 4th level (and 4 HD) character.Now, as far as my confusions, because Feral is a template applied to a species ....Level adjust should (can't seem to find anything explicitly saying it) come off the top as you are a X level character, not a X/X level character. So, at 20th &quot;ECL&quot; and you have a +1 LA, then take your level - 1 and that's the max HD you get. Meaning you can be a 19fighter/19wizard not a 19fighter/20 wizard because the LA does not come off the fighter side only.Also, I know I would never allow Feral to be inherited in my games because it seems overly silly. Even if I could get past that, I wouldn't allow it in Gestalt because LA's in Gestalt make me cry sometimes <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5565029, member: 95493"] After reading everything else in this thread I'm thoroughly confused. The feral template is a +1 Level Adjust. Based on the Savage Species. It gains extra abilities based on its Hit Dice. Also from Savage Species. However! According to Gestalt in the Unearthed Arcana. A player doesn't have twice the HD just because they have twice the bonuses from classes. A 4th level human fighter/wizard - having the best traits and abilities from both fighter and wizard is still only a 4th level (and 4 HD) character. Now, as far as my confusions, because Feral is a template applied to a species .... Level adjust [I]should[/I] (can't seem to find anything explicitly saying it) come off the top as you are a X level character, not a X/X level character. So, at 20th "ECL" and you have a +1 LA, then take your level - 1 and that's the max HD you get. Meaning you can be a 19fighter/19wizard not a 19fighter/20 wizard because the LA does not come off the fighter side only. Also, I know I would never allow Feral to be inherited in my games because it seems overly silly. Even if I could get past that, I wouldn't allow it in Gestalt because LA's in Gestalt make me cry sometimes :P [/QUOTE]

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