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<blockquote data-quote="Troll Slayer" data-source="post: 5366797" data-attributes="member: 97636"><p>I feel your pain in a way and can understand your stance on WotC. I'd still happily play one of their games but as a GM I've sworn them off. As for new games, definitely take the time to try out some free introductory materials. Many games offer a decent look into what makes each one tick.</p><p></p><p>Some suggestions that I enjoy (in no particular order):</p><p></p><p><strong>WFRP</strong> - This game is rather gritty. It definitely focuses on bleak imagery and the blackest humor. I quite like the combination but I'd say characters stay within the 0-8th or maybe 0-10th level in terms of DnD power scale. Things like Orcs and Zombies never really become easy fodder. For me this is a plus. YMMV.</p><p></p><p>The new edition has a steep buy in IMO, but it looks intriguing. Then again getting into an older edition at this point can be costly too. I'm still trying to complete my 2nd edition collection.</p><p></p><p><strong>Savage Worlds</strong> - This game does exactly what it claims to do. It's Fast, Furious and Fun! The best part is, it's only $10 to get started with the Explorer's Edition. Plus it can also do other genres beyond fantasy so you've got a wealth of options. I was pretty meh on this game at first, but once I started playing it, I was hooked. When all the elements come together they just work! Plus Savage Worlds can easily handle the grit of Warhammer or the High Fantasy of your typical DnD game!</p><p></p><p><strong>Pathfinder</strong> - I know you specifically said no to this game but unless you've tried it, I urge you to reconsider. It's arguably my favorite version of DnD since early 2nd edition and I think it's a phenomenal game. The fluff is top notch and the art work is fantastic to boot. I was in your shoes when it came to Pathfinder until the day I got to flip through a copy. After 30 minutes skimming the book, I was sold. This game is everything I wanted from 3.0/3.5 and never got. (The Bard class was screwed though, that's my only complaint and it's easily fixed.) This game stays in the High Fantasy region of magic and dragons naturally.</p><p></p><p>I've suggested these three because they very neatly cover the power scope found in most Fantasy games. If any particular game appeals to you, we can probably suggest other games that share a similar tone and power level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Troll Slayer, post: 5366797, member: 97636"] I feel your pain in a way and can understand your stance on WotC. I'd still happily play one of their games but as a GM I've sworn them off. As for new games, definitely take the time to try out some free introductory materials. Many games offer a decent look into what makes each one tick. Some suggestions that I enjoy (in no particular order): [B]WFRP[/B] - This game is rather gritty. It definitely focuses on bleak imagery and the blackest humor. I quite like the combination but I'd say characters stay within the 0-8th or maybe 0-10th level in terms of DnD power scale. Things like Orcs and Zombies never really become easy fodder. For me this is a plus. YMMV. The new edition has a steep buy in IMO, but it looks intriguing. Then again getting into an older edition at this point can be costly too. I'm still trying to complete my 2nd edition collection. [B]Savage Worlds[/B] - This game does exactly what it claims to do. It's Fast, Furious and Fun! The best part is, it's only $10 to get started with the Explorer's Edition. Plus it can also do other genres beyond fantasy so you've got a wealth of options. I was pretty meh on this game at first, but once I started playing it, I was hooked. When all the elements come together they just work! Plus Savage Worlds can easily handle the grit of Warhammer or the High Fantasy of your typical DnD game! [B]Pathfinder[/B] - I know you specifically said no to this game but unless you've tried it, I urge you to reconsider. It's arguably my favorite version of DnD since early 2nd edition and I think it's a phenomenal game. The fluff is top notch and the art work is fantastic to boot. I was in your shoes when it came to Pathfinder until the day I got to flip through a copy. After 30 minutes skimming the book, I was sold. This game is everything I wanted from 3.0/3.5 and never got. (The Bard class was screwed though, that's my only complaint and it's easily fixed.) This game stays in the High Fantasy region of magic and dragons naturally. I've suggested these three because they very neatly cover the power scope found in most Fantasy games. If any particular game appeals to you, we can probably suggest other games that share a similar tone and power level. [/QUOTE]
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