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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SJPadbury" data-source="post: 3276170" data-attributes="member: 24411">Ok, I've used PCGen for almost as long as I've been playing D&D 3.0/3.5, so about 5 years now.Short version is, yes, there's a learning curve, but just about everyone I've played with (11 people over that time period) was able to learn fairly quickly how to do it, even when it wasn't the somewhat cleaned up version it is now. (And yes, that includes the versions where adding skill points were a 5-10 minute chore...)And like the people up above said, it can handle just about any rule, to the point of insanity.The rules? working from a base of what's already been written, using cut-n-paste and tweaking, I can make most feats in a couple minutes, and full classes in a "functional, but ugly" form in half an hour to an hour. (Most recent example, I did a Dragon Shaman for a friend. I asked him up front what Dragon Totem he was going to use, and coded it with that hard-wired. Took about 45 mintues. Went back later and spent the 3-4 hours to make a version that could make choices on the fly, but that was more knowing that someone would want another one later. And they did.)Did I mention that I'm not a programmer?Oh, and the people that complain about the slowness of the program and that loading too much stuff slows it down unbearably, I have a P4 1.5 laptop that I let PCGen have 384 Meg of Memory on. I _start_ with Core 3 and Complete 4 before I even start thinking about if I want to load anything else. XPH, DMG2, pretty much always get loaded anymore too, and 2-3 more on top of that don't seem to hurt. If you just want the SRD, yeah it's probably not for you.If you want to use the entire bookshelf that you've spent your hundreds of dollars on, and you can find something better, I'll certainly pay attention, but until then, I'm sticking with this one.(And if I sound incoherant, you try making a sensible post with people having a football arguement in the background at work. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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