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<blockquote data-quote="Riley37" data-source="post: 7410550" data-attributes="member: 6786839"><p>TLDR: There are methods, and there are goals, and it's useful to understand which is which.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, if I'm understanding Celebrim accurately (take with grain of salt), Celebrim sets goals *for the experience of the actual humans playing at his table*.</p><p></p><p>Here's what would motivate *me* to flee a table in horror and outrage: "Well, the dice say zombies again, and I defer to the authority of the encounter table, which I myself wrote last month. So here's your fifth gorram zombie fight of the session. There's nothing to investigate, and no way to parley; roll for initiative." If Celebrim and I might ever agree on anything, I propose this: Servile obedience to one's previously-written tabular ordinances is not the highest possible moral accountability</p><p></p><p>To paraphrase Lao Tzu, the tao which adheres rigidly to percentile roll encounter tables is not the true Tao.</p><p></p><p>Simon, if you see Windows Vista as the acme of information technology and you want more of the same, then I hope you find what you want. However, when you're talking to people who mostly upgraded last year from Windows 8 to 10, or who have swapped to Ubuntu Linux, then "advanced" might not be the most useful search keyword, it might not prompt them "Oh, you want more Vista, here it is."</p><p></p><p>Similarly, if you love what was cutting-edge TRPG design in the early 90s, and you want more of it, then I hope you find it, but few people here associate "advanced" with the style you prefer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Riley37, post: 7410550, member: 6786839"] TLDR: There are methods, and there are goals, and it's useful to understand which is which. Furthermore, if I'm understanding Celebrim accurately (take with grain of salt), Celebrim sets goals *for the experience of the actual humans playing at his table*. Here's what would motivate *me* to flee a table in horror and outrage: "Well, the dice say zombies again, and I defer to the authority of the encounter table, which I myself wrote last month. So here's your fifth gorram zombie fight of the session. There's nothing to investigate, and no way to parley; roll for initiative." If Celebrim and I might ever agree on anything, I propose this: Servile obedience to one's previously-written tabular ordinances is not the highest possible moral accountability To paraphrase Lao Tzu, the tao which adheres rigidly to percentile roll encounter tables is not the true Tao. Simon, if you see Windows Vista as the acme of information technology and you want more of the same, then I hope you find what you want. However, when you're talking to people who mostly upgraded last year from Windows 8 to 10, or who have swapped to Ubuntu Linux, then "advanced" might not be the most useful search keyword, it might not prompt them "Oh, you want more Vista, here it is." Similarly, if you love what was cutting-edge TRPG design in the early 90s, and you want more of it, then I hope you find it, but few people here associate "advanced" with the style you prefer. [/QUOTE]
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