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<blockquote data-quote="Simon T. Vesper" data-source="post: 7410615" data-attributes="member: 6949304"><p>Fair enough. The internet holds different standards, it seems. You're correct, he was the one who wrote it, so I guess it's no skin off my nose if he doesn't take offense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I know. I'm asserting that that presentation would be a failure because the GM lost a player at the table. Is there another measure for success we should be considering? (Apart from "everyone having fun," that is.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Adherence to religious rules is not comparable because religion isn't a game. If you were to it to rolling twice in Monopoly because you didn't like the outcome of the first roll, I would call that unfair ~ actually, I'd call it cheating and we would no longer play games together.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>(Emphasis is mine.)</p><p></p><p>I'm struggling to understand. At first blush, I want to say that simply saying something doesn't make it so. I recognize that language is an ever evolving thing and that there's a constant dialogue going on when people are discussing stuff like this.</p><p></p><p>Waitaminute, let me check the thread...</p><p></p><p>Nope. No clarification on what "advanced" should mean. Just a lot of blank stares (metaphorically speaking) when I try to explain it.</p><p></p><p>Maybe a different approach...?</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Advanced: ahead or far or further along in progress, complexity, knowledge, skill, etc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Progress: forward or onward movement toward a destination</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Complexity: the state or quality of being intricate or complicated</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Knowledge: facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skill: the ability to do something well; expertise</li> </ul><p></p><p>Since I'm asking for examples of role-playing material that meets this criteria, are we agreed that these definitions are clear? Do we need to discuss additional examples in order to establish clarity?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simon T. Vesper, post: 7410615, member: 6949304"] Fair enough. The internet holds different standards, it seems. You're correct, he was the one who wrote it, so I guess it's no skin off my nose if he doesn't take offense. I know. I'm asserting that that presentation would be a failure because the GM lost a player at the table. Is there another measure for success we should be considering? (Apart from "everyone having fun," that is.) Adherence to religious rules is not comparable because religion isn't a game. If you were to it to rolling twice in Monopoly because you didn't like the outcome of the first roll, I would call that unfair ~ actually, I'd call it cheating and we would no longer play games together. (Emphasis is mine.) I'm struggling to understand. At first blush, I want to say that simply saying something doesn't make it so. I recognize that language is an ever evolving thing and that there's a constant dialogue going on when people are discussing stuff like this. Waitaminute, let me check the thread... Nope. No clarification on what "advanced" should mean. Just a lot of blank stares (metaphorically speaking) when I try to explain it. Maybe a different approach...? [LIST] [*]Advanced: ahead or far or further along in progress, complexity, knowledge, skill, etc. [*]Progress: forward or onward movement toward a destination [*]Complexity: the state or quality of being intricate or complicated [*]Knowledge: facts, information, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject [*]Skill: the ability to do something well; expertise [/LIST] Since I'm asking for examples of role-playing material that meets this criteria, are we agreed that these definitions are clear? Do we need to discuss additional examples in order to establish clarity? [/QUOTE]
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