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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jabberwocky" data-source="post: 1604256" data-attributes="member: 2929">it doesn't simply double them, but that's the effect from moving up two size categories.  base damage of the claws is 3d6 - going to large gets you to 4d6 -huge to 6d6, improved natural attack to 8d6.  half ogre setup with this couldn't overchannel to the same point, so would also have base 3d6 claws +2 size categories from expansion + 1 from imp.nat.attack, so also would have 8d6 claws.  of course, at level 9 (ECL 10) for the half-ogre, that turns into 12d6 for each claw, which is significantly better - plus you have 20ft reach rather than 15, as well as a higher strength.which brings up the question - what happens to natural attack damage after 12d6? does it go to 12d8, then 24d6 after?  it's not very clear.  it's also not clear how the 5d6 claw damage scales with size - the list goes 4,6,8,12.</blockquote>