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<blockquote data-quote="Fishbone" data-source="post: 3283554" data-attributes="member: 40849"><p>The monte bard is essentially the core bard gutted of all Bardic Music abilities and replaced with spells. Sure, it can lay down ridonkulus DC attacks time and time again and boost the power of its spells with Performance based feats until its doing 30 to 40 damage 4 times a round with first level spells, which is damn nice, but it ain't no spell-less bard.</p><p>Its more of a mouth archer than a bard. No offense to Monte, played one for about 4 months and loved it.</p><p>Edit:I caution people looking for variants of classes with partial casting to realize just how powerful 6th and even 4th level spells can be to a class. A hit dice bump and a couple of teensy weensy things here and there most likely will not be as strong as Wail of Doom, Improved Invisibility, Fanfare, Elation, Alter Self, Mirror Image, Sonic Weapon, Waves of Grief, Greater Bestow Curse, Hold Monster, Improvisation, etc. Look before you leap!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fishbone, post: 3283554, member: 40849"] The monte bard is essentially the core bard gutted of all Bardic Music abilities and replaced with spells. Sure, it can lay down ridonkulus DC attacks time and time again and boost the power of its spells with Performance based feats until its doing 30 to 40 damage 4 times a round with first level spells, which is damn nice, but it ain't no spell-less bard. Its more of a mouth archer than a bard. No offense to Monte, played one for about 4 months and loved it. Edit:I caution people looking for variants of classes with partial casting to realize just how powerful 6th and even 4th level spells can be to a class. A hit dice bump and a couple of teensy weensy things here and there most likely will not be as strong as Wail of Doom, Improved Invisibility, Fanfare, Elation, Alter Self, Mirror Image, Sonic Weapon, Waves of Grief, Greater Bestow Curse, Hold Monster, Improvisation, etc. Look before you leap! [/QUOTE]
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