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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 1470355" data-attributes="member: 3854">I would think that since 3.5 was revised to specifically clarify and clean up the rules, that it would be the one we all look at for this, rather than 3.0.S&F is riddled with errors and problems. I wouldn't use S&F to support *any* rules argument. Hell, the halfling outrider doesn't have a BAB -- and the designer claimed that was intentional.For CW, (without the book in front of me), the halfling outrider seems to be more a class of mobility and less a class for mount & rider combat -- so irrelevant to this rule question. The purple dragon knight, I don't know -- is the mount a dragon? In that case Handle Animal is unnecessary -- so, possibly irrelevant to this rule question. As for the cavalier, who knows what the design concept was? Maybe the character doesn't use his mount for attacking, or maybe the designer was on drugs that day, or maybe the editor missed it. <shrug>I still think the rules in the PHB support my interpretation. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-p" title="Stick out tongue    :-p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-p" />Look at it this way -- if it does not take a HA skill check to get the mount to attack, does the mount automatically attack? What if you don't want the mount to attack (so you don't have to make a Ride check to fight yourself)? Say two mounted knights meet on the field -- do their mounts automatically start kicking at each other, forcing their riders to make Ride checks to fight each other?Edit: "Counter the evidence against" -- lack of evidence for something is not evidence against it. And in this case, I see evidence for one way (HA + Ride), and no evidence for the other (just Ride).Quasqueton</blockquote>

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