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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7999001" data-attributes="member: 6966824">Without intending to directly reply to Ovinomancer because I don't want to get sucked in to that again, but for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread, the point about advantage/disadvantage being &quot;like&quot; +5/-5 is that when your roll is converted to a binary outcome (success vs failure), the only thing that functionally matters is the probability of success (and the probability of failure, which is determined by the probability of success). The business about whether the PDF is flat or curved or whathaveyou is immaterial as long as you are always converting the result to a binary thing at the end of the day.If you have cases where the amount by which you succeed or fail by matters (which sometimes it does, but rarely), then it's more complicated, but for most d20 rolls in 5e*, all that matters is whether you rolled high enough or not. And if &quot;high enough&quot; is rolling an 11, then you can roll with advantage or roll a single die and add 5 and it changes nothing.*Setting aside crits and crit misses in addition to anything that says something like &quot;If a creature fails the save by more than 5... [some additional effect]&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7999001, member: 6966824"] Without intending to directly reply to Ovinomancer because I don't want to get sucked in to that again, but for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread, the point about advantage/disadvantage being "like" +5/-5 is that when your roll is converted to a binary outcome (success vs failure), the only thing that functionally matters is the probability of success (and the probability of failure, which is determined by the probability of success). The business about whether the PDF is flat or curved or whathaveyou is immaterial as long as you are always converting the result to a binary thing at the end of the day. If you have cases where the amount by which you succeed or fail by matters (which sometimes it does, but rarely), then it's more complicated, but for most d20 rolls in 5e*, all that matters is whether you rolled high enough or not. And if "high enough" is rolling an 11, then you can roll with advantage or roll a single die and add 5 and it changes nothing. *Setting aside crits and crit misses in addition to anything that says something like "If a creature fails the save by more than 5... [some additional effect]" [/QUOTE]

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