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<blockquote data-quote="General Barron" data-source="post: 2644593" data-attributes="member: 32468"><p>I've never actually used or even cared for bards before now. However, IMC the main way the PCs will get access to spells is by reading scrolls via Use Magic Device skill from Rouges or Bards (magic is a rare thing; the king might have a court wizard, but you won't find magic academies or town wizards). This was a hard-sell for my player who likes to play wizards, but once he realized he could still use magic (albiet rarely), he agreed. Originally he was making a rouge, but I realized that the role of a 'student of the arcane' is better suited for a bard.</p><p></p><p>That said, I don't want bards to be 'loremasters', since that goes against the level of magic IMC. I guess I like the 'traditional' idea of a bard being a wandering entertainer, who picks up a wide variety of skills in his travels. The fact that my player's bard has spent a lot of time seeking out knowledge of the arcane would be peculiar to his specific character.</p><p></p><p>------</p><p></p><p>So I am sold on the 8 skillpoints/level, since it allows my player to pick up the Use Magic Device/Arcane Knowledge skills which he will need if he wants to be the party's 'pysuedo wizard'. I'm not dead-set on beefing up music-abilites, but I DO want bards to 'stand out' from the other classes available (Rouges or warrior-types IMC). I like how his current abilities allow him to do stuff that might be considered semi-magical, and in a low-magic campaign, expanding/beefing those up would really make the class stand apart. But I'm totally open to suggestions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="General Barron, post: 2644593, member: 32468"] I've never actually used or even cared for bards before now. However, IMC the main way the PCs will get access to spells is by reading scrolls via Use Magic Device skill from Rouges or Bards (magic is a rare thing; the king might have a court wizard, but you won't find magic academies or town wizards). This was a hard-sell for my player who likes to play wizards, but once he realized he could still use magic (albiet rarely), he agreed. Originally he was making a rouge, but I realized that the role of a 'student of the arcane' is better suited for a bard. That said, I don't want bards to be 'loremasters', since that goes against the level of magic IMC. I guess I like the 'traditional' idea of a bard being a wandering entertainer, who picks up a wide variety of skills in his travels. The fact that my player's bard has spent a lot of time seeking out knowledge of the arcane would be peculiar to his specific character. ------ So I am sold on the 8 skillpoints/level, since it allows my player to pick up the Use Magic Device/Arcane Knowledge skills which he will need if he wants to be the party's 'pysuedo wizard'. I'm not dead-set on beefing up music-abilites, but I DO want bards to 'stand out' from the other classes available (Rouges or warrior-types IMC). I like how his current abilities allow him to do stuff that might be considered semi-magical, and in a low-magic campaign, expanding/beefing those up would really make the class stand apart. But I'm totally open to suggestions. [/QUOTE]
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