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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5027105" data-attributes="member: 6957">You underestimate the corruption of the courts in the early twentieth century - in some cases (Kentucky and Tennessee) laws were actually put in place to do just that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> The laws were overturned, but doing so meant actually going to court to get rid of them. Universities showed up on both sides of the controversy, sometimes in court - mostly depending on their ethnomusicologists.  Here in Maine one of the people supporting the return of folk music to the public domain was Sandy Ives - he actually shows up in one or two fantasy stories set in the United States, including one by Manly Wade Wellman <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> . (As far as I know Sandy Ives is no relation to Burl Ives.) But you are very much correct in regards to the fact that I should have mentioned it being history, not contemporary. I seem to have expected everyone to be familiar with what is almost certainly an obscure bit of history that is only important to those familiar with the roots of folk music and bluegrass.So... how about dem Mets?The Auld Grump, who suddenly realized that he doesn't know if Sandy Ives is still alive.... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />*EDIT* Crap! He died this past August. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> I am going to have to drink him a toast - he was a wonderful person, and will be missed by all his students, and those who went to hear him speak, and sometimes sing. Sleep well, Sandy. Edward D. Ives 1925 - 2009.</blockquote>

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