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<blockquote data-quote="kenada" data-source="post: 8387584" data-attributes="member: 70468">I’m not really sure why posts from June are being dredged back up. I hope it’s not time to have yet another round of arguments over Pathfinder 2e again. The theme of these posts seems to be about diminishing (or denying!) a style of play that’s different from the presumed default (balanced encounter story play). The proposed alternate style has different values, so judging it by the presumed default ones makes no sense. It’s like complaining that Dragonlance isn’t a dungeon crawl. It’s not; that’s the point.The approach that’s being described is very much Combat as War. Engaging with the dungeon and exploration are interesting acts in their own right. Rigging things in your favor is the point. You’re not supposed to have fair fights if that’s at all possible. The same is true for the proposed escape procedure. Escape is a release valve, so the party can push its luck but not be unfairly punished if they get in over their heads (or reinforcements prove unmanageable). The only reason I can see for insisting that escape be run in encounter mode is to constrain the discussion so that any such proposals necessarily can’t work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kenada, post: 8387584, member: 70468"] I’m not really sure why posts from June are being dredged back up. I hope it’s not time to have yet another round of arguments over Pathfinder 2e again. The theme of these posts seems to be about diminishing (or denying!) a style of play that’s different from the presumed default (balanced encounter story play). The proposed alternate style has different values, so judging it by the presumed default ones makes no sense. It’s like complaining that Dragonlance isn’t a dungeon crawl. It’s not; that’s the point. The approach that’s being described is very much Combat as War. Engaging with the dungeon and exploration are interesting acts in their own right. Rigging things in your favor is the point. You’re not [I]supposed[/I] to have fair fights if that’s at all possible. The same is true for the proposed escape procedure. Escape is a release valve, so the party can push its luck but not be unfairly punished if they get in over their heads (or reinforcements prove unmanageable). The only reason I can see for insisting that escape be run in encounter mode is to constrain the discussion so that any such proposals necessarily can’t work. [/QUOTE]

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