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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8390736" data-attributes="member: 12731">I was discussing PF2 too. My point is that saying &quot;it sure can do OSR&quot; misses the point. Any game can do OSR. (Please note when I use the term, I'm specifically using it as short hand for the usages I've seen upthread and nothing else)To me, the more interesting question is how suited is the game to it. I think PF2 is eminently unsuitable for OSR. Both in absolute terms, and when compared to just about any other iteration of D&amp;D.Everything that sets PF2 apart from other D&amp;D games and makes it special are things that make it harder, not easier, to do OSR. You are ignoring the game's strengths and exposing its weaknesses.That doesn't mean I'm disallowing you from discussing how to use PF2 for OSR of course. If you feel the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, cool. I just missed the stage where the thread acknowledged that PF2 should not be any newcomers first (or fifth) choice for OSR gameplay. It is best used for a highly specialized and regimented play style and easily breaks down when otherwise utilized.Carry on</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8390736, member: 12731"] I was discussing PF2 too. My point is that saying "it sure can do OSR" misses the point. Any game can do OSR. (Please note when I use the term, I'm specifically using it as short hand for the usages I've seen upthread and nothing else) To me, the more interesting question is how suited is the game to it. I think PF2 is eminently unsuitable for OSR. Both in absolute terms, and when compared to just about any other iteration of D&D. Everything that sets PF2 apart from other D&D games and makes it special are things that make it harder, not easier, to do OSR. You are ignoring the game's strengths and exposing its weaknesses. That doesn't mean I'm disallowing you from discussing how to use PF2 for OSR of course. If you feel the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, cool. I just missed the stage where the thread acknowledged that PF2 should not be any newcomers first (or fifth) choice for OSR gameplay. It is best used for a highly specialized and regimented play style and easily breaks down when otherwise utilized. Carry on [/QUOTE]

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