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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 5842885" data-attributes="member: 31734">Your doing this because everyone has to pay 20% of their item's worth, right?  Maybe I misunderstand the percentages, so I apologize for that. No.  It only has to even out over the "long term."  IME, this is about 4 levels.  You're right that if you want immediate status quo, then it can't be done, even in your system, unless the PC getting the item can afford paying the 20% immediately.  That sort of a system really sucks wind, though, because now it's a lot like winning a car in a game show.  Sounds great until you get the tax bill.  No thanks, I don't want any magic items like that.I'm a little confused by your example.  It's incomplete.  At level 1, 4/5 PCs get an item, one each of Level 2-5.  So, by the time Dalat got his item, there were quite a few additional items to go around, very likely evening things out.  And the answer is no, it wouldn't make sense to me for a PC to owe the group anything for a found item (I suppose there might be a corner special case somewhere, but I don't know what).  I hate taxes and if you make me frackin pay taxes in a game that isn't called Monopoly, I'm gonna get angry. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> This is a separate issue.  If no one wants to keep the item, the DM should treat it just like gold from he parcel because that's what it becomes.  Time for the DM to pick a non-sucky item next time. I think we miscommunicated here.  My point was in response to my inference that your system somehow makes it fair that when a party member doesn't get any items from treasure, that the "paying for items" makes it fair.  I'm saying that that perception is fundamentally flawed.  This has nothing whatsover to do with unbalanced items. Exactly.  This proves my point.  By "paying off" your items, you will never make your fellow party members balanced with you.  They MUST acquire items through treasure as well, AS MUCH as you do.  Thus, all this paying out does nothing whatsoever to mitigate unbalancing selections.  Nothing.  Again, this is a separate point.  It's clearly the DM's fault if this happens and it's not for some specific reason (such as righting a previous imbalance or perhaps for temporary story reasons).  Oops!  Very sorry.  Typo, there was a missing NOT.  I meant to write "I know you haveN'T said this."  I really apologize about that.  The next part of the sentence should now make sense.  Again, very sorry.  My tech writer missed it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></blockquote>

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