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<blockquote data-quote="Rothe" data-source="post: 3361078" data-attributes="member: 39813"><p>Actually, the King laying claim to treasure hoards found within the boarders of the Kingdom was the norm, i.e., it is the common law and still is. Look up the common law on lost items, abandoned items and treasure. Those Roman coins would have belonged to the King in the Dark Ages. Taxes and fees in the medieval world were rampant, and the lower down the social order the more you paid. Dark age rulers were intimately concerned with getting revenue and accounting for it, as they were always desperately short of it. </p><p></p><p>Monopolies also abounded, many held by the King. You want to sell goods or even vegetables, you have to do so at the King's market and pay a fee. Mill grain, you have to use the King's mill, and pay a fee. A place to sleep at night, you need to have a license from the King to set up an inn. Conduct almost any craft, you have to be a memeber of a guild and you better not charge or even accept more money for a job than the rates proscirbed by the king (mostly late middle ages). You want to spend money, only coins of the realm are legal tender, all other coins must be exchanged for a fee. (we still have this one <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ). Medieval societies were anything but free markets with a respect for a person's personal property rights.</p><p></p><p>Loot from battle is another matter, but medieval law did not give troops a right to loot or keep it, rather kings normally let troops keep loot since it could be hard to take away and they probably already owed them back wages. Deficit spending is certainly not a modern invention.</p><p></p><p>So the view that the king wouldn't or couldn't rightly take the treasure you found is the modern one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rothe, post: 3361078, member: 39813"] Actually, the King laying claim to treasure hoards found within the boarders of the Kingdom was the norm, i.e., it is the common law and still is. Look up the common law on lost items, abandoned items and treasure. Those Roman coins would have belonged to the King in the Dark Ages. Taxes and fees in the medieval world were rampant, and the lower down the social order the more you paid. Dark age rulers were intimately concerned with getting revenue and accounting for it, as they were always desperately short of it. Monopolies also abounded, many held by the King. You want to sell goods or even vegetables, you have to do so at the King's market and pay a fee. Mill grain, you have to use the King's mill, and pay a fee. A place to sleep at night, you need to have a license from the King to set up an inn. Conduct almost any craft, you have to be a memeber of a guild and you better not charge or even accept more money for a job than the rates proscirbed by the king (mostly late middle ages). You want to spend money, only coins of the realm are legal tender, all other coins must be exchanged for a fee. (we still have this one :) ). Medieval societies were anything but free markets with a respect for a person's personal property rights. Loot from battle is another matter, but medieval law did not give troops a right to loot or keep it, rather kings normally let troops keep loot since it could be hard to take away and they probably already owed them back wages. Deficit spending is certainly not a modern invention. So the view that the king wouldn't or couldn't rightly take the treasure you found is the modern one. [/QUOTE]
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