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<blockquote data-quote="Rhombus" data-source="post: 526114" data-attributes="member: 9132"><p>[note: no, I'm not looking to start a fight]</p><p></p><p>If you think there's an nasty anti-Poser (and anti-Bryce, they almost always get lumped together) sentiment with traditional artists you should witness some of the vitriol and venom that comes from 3D artists. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p>The real bone of contention is creation of content - ie, models. Most 3D artists have nothing against Poser or Bryce as secondary tools, useful in their own ways, but can get nasty about people who call themselves 3D artists who use either prog as their primary tool. That's not to say that these progs can't be used to create art but <strong>without</strong> creating the content from the ground up most 3D artists will never consider it 3D art. Unless you've pulled off something AMAZING never post any Poser images to a 3D art forum unless you've got asbestos underwear. Same goes for Bryce users.</p><p></p><p>The best way to think of it is like the 'division' between Photographic arts and 'Traditional' arts. In fact, some of the more polite/politic 3D artists refer to Poser work as 'virtual photography' is recognition of the skill and artistry that it can be used with. They still won't budge on the whole "not creating their own content" matter, though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>(BTW, kudos for taking the plunge to learn a full 3D suite like MAX)</p><p></p><p>All that said, I'm impressed with your work. I'm guessing you're using one of the newer versions and/or have some amazing talent because I'm usually pretty good at spotting poser stuff. I can't wait to see what you start producing with the power of something like MAX at your fingertips.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rhombus, post: 526114, member: 9132"] [note: no, I'm not looking to start a fight] If you think there's an nasty anti-Poser (and anti-Bryce, they almost always get lumped together) sentiment with traditional artists you should witness some of the vitriol and venom that comes from 3D artists. :eek: The real bone of contention is creation of content - ie, models. Most 3D artists have nothing against Poser or Bryce as secondary tools, useful in their own ways, but can get nasty about people who call themselves 3D artists who use either prog as their primary tool. That's not to say that these progs can't be used to create art but [b]without[/b] creating the content from the ground up most 3D artists will never consider it 3D art. Unless you've pulled off something AMAZING never post any Poser images to a 3D art forum unless you've got asbestos underwear. Same goes for Bryce users. The best way to think of it is like the 'division' between Photographic arts and 'Traditional' arts. In fact, some of the more polite/politic 3D artists refer to Poser work as 'virtual photography' is recognition of the skill and artistry that it can be used with. They still won't budge on the whole "not creating their own content" matter, though. :D (BTW, kudos for taking the plunge to learn a full 3D suite like MAX) All that said, I'm impressed with your work. I'm guessing you're using one of the newer versions and/or have some amazing talent because I'm usually pretty good at spotting poser stuff. I can't wait to see what you start producing with the power of something like MAX at your fingertips. [/QUOTE]
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