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<blockquote data-quote="Chain Lightning" data-source="post: 1306636" data-attributes="member: 6791"><p>The question being asked is: "Did Peter Jackson lose the plot?"</p><p></p><p>My answer: "No."</p><p></p><p>But, as we're starting to discuss some of the changes Peter has made, I'll add in some of my opinions on those mentioned. </p><p></p><p>I think the change to Faramir was great. It was much needed. And I'm pretty sure it will be even better when RotK Extended Edition comes out. Right now, his character's story arc ends kinda lamely because of cut scenes. Jackson, Boyens, and Walsh had excellent and valid reasons for making these changes. The only character change I'd disagree with the most is really the whole thing with Arwen's health being linked to the quest to destroy the one ring.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad Tom Bombadil isn't in it. I like his character and all....but I just think its needed. They really wanted to keep the number of people immune to the One Ring to a total of zero. A decision I totally agree with. I also agree with leaving out the scouring of the Shire. Its a pretty lame addition to the over all trilogy. Its like me writing about the epic battles of World War II and adding this part at the end where one Nazi general escapes and starts to rebuild his army by starting to take over a small town in Kansas. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>From a directing view-point....I think there were more mistakes I could point out. Chief among them were my gripes with the Nazgul scenes (Weathertop for instance), Eowyn vs. the Witchking, lighting of the beacons, Denethor's decent into further madness, and Cirith Ungol. Other than that.....everything else was pretty enjoyable. I got a pretty good feeling the RotK EE will fix most of my gripes. Probably the only remaining gripe that would never get fix is the one I have with most of the Nazgul scenes. </p><p></p><p>And while I'm listing things I didn't like: I want to bring up a tiny tiny gripe of mine. Its one that barely even hurts the film....but it was something I wasn't too happy with. It was the bad body language acting of some of the Orcs. Too me, the only bad acting in the whole trilogy. Such high calibre acting EVERYWHERE by everyone. But then.....you got these extras who do these cheezy cliched Orc performances. The worst being the one Orc from Cirith Ungol who explains how old Shelob feeds. I absolutely hate how he acts, walks, everything. Ok....that's off my chest now...heh heh. But remember...that gripe is really a minor concern when looking at the whole trilogy. Really really minor.</p><p></p><p>These movies kick butt....I'm so glad they came out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I mean, what else are we gonna watch? Conan The Barbarian for the 239th time? Willow? Deathstalker? Kull?</p><p></p><p>Yah......exactly.......the LotR trilogy is like a beautiful long cool drink of much needed water in a continent sized desert named " Fantasy Movies ".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chain Lightning, post: 1306636, member: 6791"] The question being asked is: "Did Peter Jackson lose the plot?" My answer: "No." But, as we're starting to discuss some of the changes Peter has made, I'll add in some of my opinions on those mentioned. I think the change to Faramir was great. It was much needed. And I'm pretty sure it will be even better when RotK Extended Edition comes out. Right now, his character's story arc ends kinda lamely because of cut scenes. Jackson, Boyens, and Walsh had excellent and valid reasons for making these changes. The only character change I'd disagree with the most is really the whole thing with Arwen's health being linked to the quest to destroy the one ring. I'm glad Tom Bombadil isn't in it. I like his character and all....but I just think its needed. They really wanted to keep the number of people immune to the One Ring to a total of zero. A decision I totally agree with. I also agree with leaving out the scouring of the Shire. Its a pretty lame addition to the over all trilogy. Its like me writing about the epic battles of World War II and adding this part at the end where one Nazi general escapes and starts to rebuild his army by starting to take over a small town in Kansas. :rolleyes: From a directing view-point....I think there were more mistakes I could point out. Chief among them were my gripes with the Nazgul scenes (Weathertop for instance), Eowyn vs. the Witchking, lighting of the beacons, Denethor's decent into further madness, and Cirith Ungol. Other than that.....everything else was pretty enjoyable. I got a pretty good feeling the RotK EE will fix most of my gripes. Probably the only remaining gripe that would never get fix is the one I have with most of the Nazgul scenes. And while I'm listing things I didn't like: I want to bring up a tiny tiny gripe of mine. Its one that barely even hurts the film....but it was something I wasn't too happy with. It was the bad body language acting of some of the Orcs. Too me, the only bad acting in the whole trilogy. Such high calibre acting EVERYWHERE by everyone. But then.....you got these extras who do these cheezy cliched Orc performances. The worst being the one Orc from Cirith Ungol who explains how old Shelob feeds. I absolutely hate how he acts, walks, everything. Ok....that's off my chest now...heh heh. But remember...that gripe is really a minor concern when looking at the whole trilogy. Really really minor. These movies kick butt....I'm so glad they came out. :) I mean, what else are we gonna watch? Conan The Barbarian for the 239th time? Willow? Deathstalker? Kull? Yah......exactly.......the LotR trilogy is like a beautiful long cool drink of much needed water in a continent sized desert named " Fantasy Movies ". [/QUOTE]
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