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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1307113" data-attributes="member: 1194">Hmmmm....   we're close to caught up on this, Umbran, but one thing:KenM said this-then you said:Then I pointed out how you were omitted certain facts in your reply, instead solely concentrating on what you wanted to reply to. (In other words, you made an explanatory post that purposely covered only half the story, while ignoring the point: that there are problems with Tolkein's sequences.)Now you still attempt to explain away the actions, without acknowledging eithera) that the actions are mistakes, AND are silly to the reader.b) that you haven't been forthright in your explanations.I'd like to clarify more, but I think you get my gist. That's all. No big deal.edit: About you dodging point a) above- Every reader can see clearly that this is a mistake by the characters, and paints Gandalf in a VERY bad light.The need for haste in the light of Sauron's expanding strength and vision is ignored by the lazy hobbit and wizard.They created their own problem with procrastination, even AFTER realizing they had the most powerful and dangerous artifact ever known to Middle Earth in their possession.Galactically stupid decision there, and everyone can see it. It can't be explained away, and it lessens the stature of the heroes (a bad thing to do in an epic hero novel, by definition. Unless the heroes' fatal flaw is procrastination, which it isn't in LotR).THAT'S just one example of the things me and KenM are referring to, Umbran.If you'd like to respond, please address our point(s), or acknowledge them.</blockquote>

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