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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salthanas" data-source="post: 1307349" data-attributes="member: 9689">In your opinion theres a problem, I don't really think there is. Gandalf has at first only a few vague suspicions about the ring. Until that point as far as he knew the ruling ring had been lost. Saruman told him this, and at that point Saruman is not only considered a "good guy" but also the head of the White Council and also the top Istari in Middle Earth. It takes Gandalf years to finally verify that the Ring is in fact Sauron's ring. Can't really see many problems up to that point. Gandalf can't make himself learn about the ring any more quickly than he actually learns about it, thats just the way it panned out.Again I don't have much of a problem with how its written in the book. Gandalf wants Frodo to pretty much disappear from the Shire without courting interest. That way the Ring can effectively be removed from Sauron's knowledge altogether. If Frodo had left with Gandalf immediatly then that would have almost certainly found its way back to Sauron and the whole point of trying to keep the Ring hidden would have been made moot. The reason that Gandalf's decision is made to seem extremely poor is because he doesn't a) suspect Saruman's treachery and b) because he was not expecting the nine to be so quick on the trail of the Ring. Those are two rather large spanners to be thrown in the works at the best of times <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> and Gandalf says that if he had realised that the danger was as great as it actually transpired that he would have left immediatly with Frodo. You also seem to be forgetting that Gandalf pretty much planned to stay with Frodo until he left. He leaves Frodo to check out some news on the borders regarding Gondor's war with Sauron and  also because he's heard a rumour about the Nazgul, from there he is directed to Isengard by Radagast ( again note that Gandalf says that depending on the news they might have to leave immediatly before he sets out). So its not as if he intended the Ring to be out of his sight for all that long, his imprisonment by Saruman is what makes everything go pearshaped, up until that point he has things in hand quite nicely. Gandalf's choices are not perfect but as he doesn't have flawless hindsight they wont be anyway. His simple plan of staying with Frodo for a few months to allow him to leave the Shire quietly goes wrong mainly because of Saruman's treachery which he doesn't foresee. To say that these actions are silly to the reader and are obvious mistakes is a little innane I think (If only because this a matter of subjection and not something you can speak in the declaritive about  but I'm sure you knew that anyway  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ). They might seem silly because of what transpired but based on what Gandalf knew at the time they seem fine particularly as he never intended to be parted from Frodo for very long at all.</blockquote>

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