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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1307618" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>a) I didn't ignore them - they simply didn't convince me, and they didn't counter my stated reasons.</p><p></p><p>b) That's a big question.</p><p>But there are many reasons, not the least of which is human nature/psychology:</p><p>The more people read (and/or learn) something, the more their approach becomes similar to the material. They become more agreeable towards the subject, to justify their long exposure to it.</p><p>This is the basis of brainwashing, and a recognized psychological observation, AFAIK.</p><p></p><p>Further, most people that are fans of something prefer not to point out its flaws. I'm not talking about the internet - I'm talking about real people.</p><p>When people like something, they seldom talk about the parts they didn't like - they concentrate on the parts they did. This is human naure - to appear agreeable, and fun to be around. Conflict and disagreeableness are not virtues in human society (again, not talking about the internet).</p><p></p><p>It's usually people who DON'T like something that will talk about the flaws in a work.</p><p>Guess who reads these LotR threads?</p><p>People who LIKE the work, for the vast majority.</p><p></p><p>I even like LotR - quite a lot, actually.</p><p></p><p>This doesn't blind me to the things that don't work in it.</p><p>To me, something that can hold up to scrutiny INCREASES my respect for the work.</p><p>Which is why I started <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74036" target="_blank">this thread here</a> to debate what I perceive to be things that don't work in the book. I'd appreciate more input.</p><p>However, what you've mentioned here is not convincing at all, mainly because you haven't been addressing my points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1307618, member: 1194"] a) I didn't ignore them - they simply didn't convince me, and they didn't counter my stated reasons. b) That's a big question. But there are many reasons, not the least of which is human nature/psychology: The more people read (and/or learn) something, the more their approach becomes similar to the material. They become more agreeable towards the subject, to justify their long exposure to it. This is the basis of brainwashing, and a recognized psychological observation, AFAIK. Further, most people that are fans of something prefer not to point out its flaws. I'm not talking about the internet - I'm talking about real people. When people like something, they seldom talk about the parts they didn't like - they concentrate on the parts they did. This is human naure - to appear agreeable, and fun to be around. Conflict and disagreeableness are not virtues in human society (again, not talking about the internet). It's usually people who DON'T like something that will talk about the flaws in a work. Guess who reads these LotR threads? People who LIKE the work, for the vast majority. I even like LotR - quite a lot, actually. This doesn't blind me to the things that don't work in it. To me, something that can hold up to scrutiny INCREASES my respect for the work. Which is why I started [URL=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=74036]this thread here[/URL] to debate what I perceive to be things that don't work in the book. I'd appreciate more input. However, what you've mentioned here is not convincing at all, mainly because you haven't been addressing my points. [/QUOTE]
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