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Lord of the Rings: Did PJ lose the plot?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mog Elffoe" data-source="post: 1308430" data-attributes="member: 793"><p>I can understand powered armor not being included due to budget constraints, etc, but to say that <em>Starship Troopers </em> the movie was true to the themes of Heinlein's original book...? You clearly did not read the book at all. One of the main themes in Heinlein's novel was that people were important, that the Mobile Infantry simply *could not* afford to lose troopers. The Mobile Infantry lived by the 'never leave anyone behind' rule, and yet, in the movie the troopers do not hesitate to kill their own, and even *expect* other troopers to kill them! Michael Ironsides' character practically demands that he be killed when his legs are bitten off at the end of the film, despite the fact that they are being airlifted out that very moment and that he *already* has cybernetic replacements for missing limbs! The movie's theme that in the Mobile Infantry life is cheap runs diectly counter to Heinlein's novel. This was my main problem with the film. Buzzard was correct when he stated that the filmmakers were clearly not fans of the original novel.</p><p></p><p>Other elements I felt were poorly done in <em>Starship Troopers </em> the movie:</p><p></p><p>1.) Why is there an argument over whether the bugs are intelligent or not? They are capable of calculating interstellar trajectories and launching asteroids at planets as weapons--OF COURSE they are intelligent!</p><p></p><p>2.) Bad tactics. The military in the movie makes bad tactical decisions at every single level. Their primary attack is infantry, they don't support the infantry with artillery ever, and the infantry advance on an enemy in a circle while firing automatic weapons--the troopers would cut each other to ribbons in a heartbeat!</p><p></p><p>That said, I did purchase the DVD and I do occasionally pop it in simply for Phil Tippett's extraordinary creature work. The movie has some of the best giant bugs ever commited to screen (which are also *extremely* different from the book's bugs--in the books they used their own weird alien tech and had their own spacecraft.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mog Elffoe, post: 1308430, member: 793"] I can understand powered armor not being included due to budget constraints, etc, but to say that [I]Starship Troopers [/I] the movie was true to the themes of Heinlein's original book...? You clearly did not read the book at all. One of the main themes in Heinlein's novel was that people were important, that the Mobile Infantry simply *could not* afford to lose troopers. The Mobile Infantry lived by the 'never leave anyone behind' rule, and yet, in the movie the troopers do not hesitate to kill their own, and even *expect* other troopers to kill them! Michael Ironsides' character practically demands that he be killed when his legs are bitten off at the end of the film, despite the fact that they are being airlifted out that very moment and that he *already* has cybernetic replacements for missing limbs! The movie's theme that in the Mobile Infantry life is cheap runs diectly counter to Heinlein's novel. This was my main problem with the film. Buzzard was correct when he stated that the filmmakers were clearly not fans of the original novel. Other elements I felt were poorly done in [I]Starship Troopers [/I] the movie: 1.) Why is there an argument over whether the bugs are intelligent or not? They are capable of calculating interstellar trajectories and launching asteroids at planets as weapons--OF COURSE they are intelligent! 2.) Bad tactics. The military in the movie makes bad tactical decisions at every single level. Their primary attack is infantry, they don't support the infantry with artillery ever, and the infantry advance on an enemy in a circle while firing automatic weapons--the troopers would cut each other to ribbons in a heartbeat! That said, I did purchase the DVD and I do occasionally pop it in simply for Phil Tippett's extraordinary creature work. The movie has some of the best giant bugs ever commited to screen (which are also *extremely* different from the book's bugs--in the books they used their own weird alien tech and had their own spacecraft.) [/QUOTE]
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