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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FraserRonald" data-source="post: 541881" data-attributes="member: 7892">Except that I noted there were problems outside of the adaption problems, such as extraneous elements that added nothing to the plot and some very stereotypical characterizations. I then went on to say “However, having read the book, and as this is an adaption, I cannot divorce it from its source material.” As for internal problems with the movie, without reference to the books, there are the extraneous elements. How many times does Aragorn need to think/dream/pine for Arwen before the audience, even those who have not seen the first movie, figure out they are in love? And the trip to Osgiliath was ridiculous simply from an internal logic sense, in that it only allows us to see more action (though you’d think after two rocks in the river ver close to the shore, somebody would figure the catapults or trebuchets or whatever needed a little more range) and have Faramir make an inexplicable change of heart. Some people have put up possible explanations, but, in all honesty, these same ends could be achieved without the trip. They are so close to Gondor, and then Faramir changes his mind?These have nothing to do with the books, these are internal weaknesses in an already bloated film.As for characterization, Saruman was all but twirling his waxed moustache, and in the hands of anybody but Christopher Lee could have come off quite campy. Bernard Law is a great actor, and with better lines, he might have at least made Theoden, as envisioned in the movie, sympathetic rather than petulant. If you can make Boromir a sympathetic character, and you want Theoden to be a bitter old man in denial, I think you can do a little better than this. As for Faramir, one minute he’s a standard bully, and the next he’s risking his life.And please, someone tell me how one arrow drove off the Nazgul. I mean, the Ring is there. If it can’t see it, the Nazgul sure as heck can feel it. He was right there in front of Frodo. Then one arrow and bye-bye! How is he going to explain that one to the boss?“Yes, master, the Ring was in my grasp, but they had arrows. Arrows! My fell beast even got pricked by one!”Yes, that stuff is all very cool. And I certainly am not saying this is a bad movie. I am saying that it is inferior to FotR.And, yes, I am so looking forward to the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.Just my 2 cents (maybe a little more)</blockquote>

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