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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 542338" data-attributes="member: 1980"><p>On a whole, very cool. Quite good. </p><p></p><p>My own nit picks are many of the same ones. While I don't mind Gilmi being the but of so many jokes. One in particular bothered me: The armor bit, since he's supposedly the only member of the fellowship openly wearing armor. Also, there's an OK line in the book, when he takes a shield with a horse on it: I'd rather bear a horse than have one bear me.</p><p></p><p>I think I would have liked Merry and Pippin a lot more if some of their cleverness / hobitness from this part of the book was left in, during the orc march. The cutting of the their ropes long before the fight and sitting down to eat some lembas just after escaping (something Aragorn mentions clearly shows that he's right that it's a hobbit he's teacking =D ) really has always been a large part defining them, and their interaction with the ents.</p><p></p><p>I think having Arwen (apperantly) already made up her mind to go to the undying lands is somwhat weak, and I think it's made a bit worse by her father's coaxing. In the book she has her mind set to stay with Aragorn until the bitter end and die as a mortal years before hand. Likewise Elrond, in the book, is somber about the war, since any way it ends it will mean sorrow for him, but still quite willing to go through with it. I really just fear this will come down making Arwen sound kinda like "Oh, you're the king now? Well, guess I could stay for that..." later. Though since Aragorn's request of marrying her appearantly isn't answered until he finds the sappling of the white tree, what's Elrond supposted to do if she's already crossed the sea? "Right, well.... I'll have the valar put her on the first ship back, then."</p><p></p><p>I wonder if Gondor has lost a lot of it's magesty within the films. From what we've seen, it's just a land of men. Nothing too special about it. It just dosn't seam reveared enugh, in the eyes of the rest of the world, particularly Theoidan's (If memory serves he lived there until he became king, and his wife was from Gondor. Given that the two kingdoms should have much faith in each other, it's a little disopointing to see him appear so resentful).</p><p></p><p>I'm a bit suprised at the elves showing up, since I had expected Arwen to take the place of her brothers, and bring Narsil with her...</p><p></p><p>Clearly they still try and mantain a lot of Tolkien's own words whenever possible (Gilmi's speach about female dwarves is right out of an appendex), which is nice. Sam and Frodo's story exposition has always been a favroite part, so it's a shame to see it re-worked as much as it was. </p><p></p><p>Also, the shift in the ring affecting Frodo so visibly and overtly, even before he gets into Mordor, is interesting. The book had a far slower build up that never really came to any sort of climax like was seen here until the very end.</p><p></p><p>And of course I'm a bit disopointed that the ents didn't do any tree-root effects on the rocks of Isenguard, and at the lack of their rage once the fight really begain, where it was like a hurricane of hurlled rock within the walls once Skinbark was burnt.</p><p></p><p>And the're leaving a <strong>lot</strong> for The return of the king... Shelob, Cirth Ungol, The visit with Saruman...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Destil, post: 542338, member: 1980"] On a whole, very cool. Quite good. My own nit picks are many of the same ones. While I don't mind Gilmi being the but of so many jokes. One in particular bothered me: The armor bit, since he's supposedly the only member of the fellowship openly wearing armor. Also, there's an OK line in the book, when he takes a shield with a horse on it: I'd rather bear a horse than have one bear me. I think I would have liked Merry and Pippin a lot more if some of their cleverness / hobitness from this part of the book was left in, during the orc march. The cutting of the their ropes long before the fight and sitting down to eat some lembas just after escaping (something Aragorn mentions clearly shows that he's right that it's a hobbit he's teacking =D ) really has always been a large part defining them, and their interaction with the ents. I think having Arwen (apperantly) already made up her mind to go to the undying lands is somwhat weak, and I think it's made a bit worse by her father's coaxing. In the book she has her mind set to stay with Aragorn until the bitter end and die as a mortal years before hand. Likewise Elrond, in the book, is somber about the war, since any way it ends it will mean sorrow for him, but still quite willing to go through with it. I really just fear this will come down making Arwen sound kinda like "Oh, you're the king now? Well, guess I could stay for that..." later. Though since Aragorn's request of marrying her appearantly isn't answered until he finds the sappling of the white tree, what's Elrond supposted to do if she's already crossed the sea? "Right, well.... I'll have the valar put her on the first ship back, then." I wonder if Gondor has lost a lot of it's magesty within the films. From what we've seen, it's just a land of men. Nothing too special about it. It just dosn't seam reveared enugh, in the eyes of the rest of the world, particularly Theoidan's (If memory serves he lived there until he became king, and his wife was from Gondor. Given that the two kingdoms should have much faith in each other, it's a little disopointing to see him appear so resentful). I'm a bit suprised at the elves showing up, since I had expected Arwen to take the place of her brothers, and bring Narsil with her... Clearly they still try and mantain a lot of Tolkien's own words whenever possible (Gilmi's speach about female dwarves is right out of an appendex), which is nice. Sam and Frodo's story exposition has always been a favroite part, so it's a shame to see it re-worked as much as it was. Also, the shift in the ring affecting Frodo so visibly and overtly, even before he gets into Mordor, is interesting. The book had a far slower build up that never really came to any sort of climax like was seen here until the very end. And of course I'm a bit disopointed that the ents didn't do any tree-root effects on the rocks of Isenguard, and at the lack of their rage once the fight really begain, where it was like a hurricane of hurlled rock within the walls once Skinbark was burnt. And the're leaving a [b]lot[/b] for The return of the king... Shelob, Cirth Ungol, The visit with Saruman... [/QUOTE]
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