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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7911315" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Fair, but I've never seen that spell and it was never mentioned. I can't even check to see how that spell is cast and if it has a cost that is high enough to make it not worthwhile. I was responding the Cloudkill's and Banshee Wail (which I can also not check, since I don't know where this spell is listed)</p><p></p><p>And those spells aren't 2 mile radi.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It seems we have completely different premises. </p><p></p><p>I was working under the premise that if Eberron invaded a world, via some means, in 5e. </p><p></p><p>You are working under the premise of spelljamming in 3e or 2e. And, as you note, that immediately changes everything. </p><p></p><p>Wizards are immune to attacks, just period, of everyone below a threshold. At that point armies don't matter. Wizards can do anything. And at that point nothing matters. All of the stats of all of the spells are completely different, so the entire premise is shifted. </p><p></p><p>But, I will note something. </p><p></p><p>As I understand the game, the changes in the rules are canonical to the world. At least to Faerun, because of the Sundering. </p><p></p><p>That means, that while those Archcaster's may have been able to do those things a few decades ago, they no longer can. And since I do not know if they can see quantum probability, they might teleport into the middle of an army, expecting every attack from the soldiers to miss them, only to find that they don't. Smart does not mean you can't be prideful or make mistakes, it just means you make fewer of them. </p><p></p><p>Also, "Wealth by level" applies only to characters. If "Wealth by Level" applied to countries, then every Eberron nation not ruled by a being with multiple level 20 classes is broke as a joke. And magewrights existed for the purpose of giving magical gear to the soldiers, The Last War has most definetly been described to me as closer to a modern war than a medieval war. They used explosives after all. Ranged weaponry. War Magic. </p><p></p><p>So, I don't know why you would insist on declaring that "wealth by level and the phb mundane equipment chart" is all that Eberron would have access to. Eberron is wealthy, wealthy enough that they can afford to make magic items for the exclusive purpose of public health. No nation or city-state (which is another point of geopolitics) in the other countries can claim that. Despite their "deep magic" the common people see none of it. It is exclusively in the hands of the powerful. So, it is perfectly reasonable to assume the common soldier is given more magical equipment than the opposing forces, backed by the wealthy of Eberron.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7911315, member: 6801228"] Fair, but I've never seen that spell and it was never mentioned. I can't even check to see how that spell is cast and if it has a cost that is high enough to make it not worthwhile. I was responding the Cloudkill's and Banshee Wail (which I can also not check, since I don't know where this spell is listed) And those spells aren't 2 mile radi. It seems we have completely different premises. I was working under the premise that if Eberron invaded a world, via some means, in 5e. You are working under the premise of spelljamming in 3e or 2e. And, as you note, that immediately changes everything. Wizards are immune to attacks, just period, of everyone below a threshold. At that point armies don't matter. Wizards can do anything. And at that point nothing matters. All of the stats of all of the spells are completely different, so the entire premise is shifted. But, I will note something. As I understand the game, the changes in the rules are canonical to the world. At least to Faerun, because of the Sundering. That means, that while those Archcaster's may have been able to do those things a few decades ago, they no longer can. And since I do not know if they can see quantum probability, they might teleport into the middle of an army, expecting every attack from the soldiers to miss them, only to find that they don't. Smart does not mean you can't be prideful or make mistakes, it just means you make fewer of them. Also, "Wealth by level" applies only to characters. If "Wealth by Level" applied to countries, then every Eberron nation not ruled by a being with multiple level 20 classes is broke as a joke. And magewrights existed for the purpose of giving magical gear to the soldiers, The Last War has most definetly been described to me as closer to a modern war than a medieval war. They used explosives after all. Ranged weaponry. War Magic. So, I don't know why you would insist on declaring that "wealth by level and the phb mundane equipment chart" is all that Eberron would have access to. Eberron is wealthy, wealthy enough that they can afford to make magic items for the exclusive purpose of public health. No nation or city-state (which is another point of geopolitics) in the other countries can claim that. Despite their "deep magic" the common people see none of it. It is exclusively in the hands of the powerful. So, it is perfectly reasonable to assume the common soldier is given more magical equipment than the opposing forces, backed by the wealthy of Eberron. [/QUOTE]
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