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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9572255" data-attributes="member: 83242">What is the Spelljammer lore? Here is the 2e lore I found from the Monstrous Compendium:[spoiler=Beholder Lore}The beholder is the stuff of nightmares. This creature, also called the [I]sphere of many eyes[/I] or the eye tyrant, appears as a large orb dominated by a central eye and a large toothy maw, has 10 smaller eyes on stalks sprouting from the top of the orb. Among adventurers, beholders are known as deadly adversaries.Equally deadly are a number of variant creatures known collectively as beholder-kin, including radical and related creatures, and an undead variety. These creatures are related in manners familial and arcane to the traditional beholders, and share a number of features, including the deadly magical nature of their eyes. The most extreme of these creatures are called beholder abominations.The globular body of the beholder and its kin is supported by levitation, allowing it to float slowly about as it wills.Beholders and beholder-kin are usually solitary creatures, but there are reports of large communities of them surviving deep beneath the earth and in the void between the stars, under the dominion of <a href="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/beholde2" target="_blank">hive mothers</a>.All beholders speak their own language, which is also understood by all beholder-kin. In addition, they often speak the tongues of other lawful evil creatures.Habitat/Society: The beholders are a hateful, aggressive and avaricious race, attacking or dominating other races, including other beholders and many of the beholder-kin. This is because of a xenophobic intolerance among beholders that causes them to hate all creatures not like themselves. The basic, beholder body-type (a sphere with a mouth and a central eye, eye-tipped tentacles) allows for a great variety of beholder subspecies. Some have obvious differences, there are those covered with overlapping chitin plates, and those with smooth hides, or snake-like eye tentacles, and some with crustacean-like joints. But something as small as a change in hide color or size of the central eye can make two groups of beholders sworn enemies. Every beholder declares its own unique body-form to be the true ideal of beholderhood, the others being nothing but ugly copies, fit only to be eliminated.Beholders will normally attack immediately. If confronted with a particular party there is a 50% chance they will listen to negotiations (bribery) before raining death upon their foes.Ecology: The exact reproductive process of the beholder is unknown. The core racial hatred of the beholders may derive from the nature of their reproduction, which seems to produce identical (or nearly so) individuals with only slight margin for variation. Beholders may use parthenogenic reproduction to duplicate themselves, and give birth live (no beholder eggs have been found). Beholders may also (rarely) mate with types of beholder-kin.The smaller eyes of the beholder may be used to produce a potion of levitation, and as such can be sold for 50 gp each.[/spoiler]The 5e lore doesn't seem to contradict anything here.  What is the stuff you like? Do you have any links?OK, I read this wiki (<a href="https://spelljammer.fandom.com/wiki/Beholder" target="_blank">Beholder / Spelljammer</a>) and it does the typical think of D&D monsters in space. Still doesn't seem incompatible with the additional lore in 5e. Personally I find the 5e lore more fitting of the bizarreness of beholders, but I could incorporate some of this spelljammer stuff if I ever desired to use that setting. My issue is that it is just to much like every other spelljamming creature. Seems less inspired than the 5e lore to me (though I should clarify my memory of the 5e lore is pretty shaky, I could be remembering my take on the lore - which is a constant problem for me).</blockquote>

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