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<blockquote data-quote="amethal" data-source="post: 2828833" data-attributes="member: 22784">I'd argue completely the opposite. Sorcerers only know a handful of spells, and to be required to take so many divination spells is a major handicap to a sorcerer. Not to mention the requirement to have ranks in two knowledge skills when usually only knowledge (arcana) is a class skill.Wizards, on the other hand, automatically get the 0 level divination spells, and can buy a few scrolls and copy them into their spellbooks to get the rest. Its quite expensive, but at least you don't actually prepare things like &quot;detect secret doors&quot; if you don't want to.Loremaster itself is one of my favourite prestige classes. I like the extra skill points, and so what if you have to &quot;waste&quot; a feat on skill focus (knowledge). Most prestige classes require one or more feats which are perhaps weaker than the ones you'd normally pick, and in return you eventually get something like 5 loremaster secrets which are pretty much worth a feat each.The bardic lore ability is also a very cool class feature.Unfortunately, I'm not keen on wizards, and its pretty challenging to qualify as a sorcerer. After all, you have to pay for your metamagic / item creation feats rather than getting them as a bonus, and normally it takes another feat to get another knowledge skill as a class skill.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="amethal, post: 2828833, member: 22784"] I'd argue completely the opposite. Sorcerers only know a handful of spells, and to be required to take so many divination spells is a major handicap to a sorcerer. Not to mention the requirement to have ranks in two knowledge skills when usually only knowledge (arcana) is a class skill. Wizards, on the other hand, automatically get the 0 level divination spells, and can buy a few scrolls and copy them into their spellbooks to get the rest. Its quite expensive, but at least you don't actually prepare things like "detect secret doors" if you don't want to. Loremaster itself is one of my favourite prestige classes. I like the extra skill points, and so what if you have to "waste" a feat on skill focus (knowledge). Most prestige classes require one or more feats which are perhaps weaker than the ones you'd normally pick, and in return you eventually get something like 5 loremaster secrets which are pretty much worth a feat each. The bardic lore ability is also a very cool class feature. Unfortunately, I'm not keen on wizards, and its pretty challenging to qualify as a sorcerer. After all, you have to pay for your metamagic / item creation feats rather than getting them as a bonus, and normally it takes another feat to get another knowledge skill as a class skill. [/QUOTE]

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