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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 8434920" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>I don't feel like a lot of your evidence is what I would call evidence.</p><p></p><p>Take the Jose Freitas story you've brought up multiple times. "<em>I<u> remember her throwing a fit at GenCon (92 or 93, can't remember) because some girls were in a bikini chain mail suit,</u> and she was on a roll and badmouthed and cursed gamers (loudly!) for at least ten minutes." </em></p><p></p><p>You want this to be evidence that she was fighting the good fight about girls in chainmail bikinis. And maybe that was what started her anger. But you have ignored the part where she badmouthed at cursed at her customer base (at a convention!) for 10 minutes. That's not evidence of standing up for principles, that's going full Karen. What you are doing is re-inventing the narrative. Taking a first hand account from someone who was there, someone who is a member of these boards, and saying their experience wasn't real.</p><p></p><p>What I also see is a complete lack of evidence in this thead about the good she did. You want to re-evaluate her policies, like playtesting? Great. Tell me about what policies she set that had positive impact. You want to talk about things she did to expand D&D? Awesome. Tell me what lines she pushed for and which lines she pulled back on, and we'll talk about the impact. I know that these things exist. But so far all the "evidence" seems to be attacking the stories from people who worked at TSR, not adding new information.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This just makes me feel dirty. As a partial owner of a company, I would like to oust anyone else from the corporation that shares this mentality.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 8434920, member: 7808"] I don't feel like a lot of your evidence is what I would call evidence. Take the Jose Freitas story you've brought up multiple times. "[I]I[U] remember her throwing a fit at GenCon (92 or 93, can't remember) because some girls were in a bikini chain mail suit,[/U] and she was on a roll and badmouthed and cursed gamers (loudly!) for at least ten minutes." [/I] You want this to be evidence that she was fighting the good fight about girls in chainmail bikinis. And maybe that was what started her anger. But you have ignored the part where she badmouthed at cursed at her customer base (at a convention!) for 10 minutes. That's not evidence of standing up for principles, that's going full Karen. What you are doing is re-inventing the narrative. Taking a first hand account from someone who was there, someone who is a member of these boards, and saying their experience wasn't real. What I also see is a complete lack of evidence in this thead about the good she did. You want to re-evaluate her policies, like playtesting? Great. Tell me about what policies she set that had positive impact. You want to talk about things she did to expand D&D? Awesome. Tell me what lines she pushed for and which lines she pulled back on, and we'll talk about the impact. I know that these things exist. But so far all the "evidence" seems to be attacking the stories from people who worked at TSR, not adding new information. This just makes me feel dirty. As a partial owner of a company, I would like to oust anyone else from the corporation that shares this mentality. [/QUOTE]
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