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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8434944" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>This. I won't lie, I had a lot of animus against LW for a long time. Because I heard all these things and believed them.</p><p></p><p>Then Gamergate happened, and I saw how a huge swath of our community reacted towards women.</p><p>Then I saw comments on forums like Dragonsfoot by posters who made fun of her appearance, rather than what she actually did</p><p>Then I saw how many of the complaints about her were hearsay without any actual evidence, and in fact, counter evidence came out.</p><p>Then I saw how <em>today</em>, in the year 2021, how gamers are still reacting towards women and other disparately treated minority groups.</p><p>Then I think, "Self, if all these toxic attitudes are still going on today, just imagine what she had to deal with in the 80s?"</p><p></p><p>so yeah, while I think it's clear she made some serious mistakes, and absolutely should be taken to task for those, she shouldn't be treated unfairly for things there isn't any proof of, and I am 100% positive that many of those complaints and rumors were because she was a woman in charge and that's it, because we have a mountain of evidence just how toxic many gamers were, and still are.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Here's an example. This was from yesterday. Wesley happened to post a review for Chromatic Dungeons, and this shining star decided to comment on it. Short version? Unless white men are still the centerpiece of a game, then it's not really diverse and just pandering to SJWs. This happened <em>yesterday, </em>not 1986. Attitudes like this were the norm, rather than exception, in the 80s, so forgive me if I take a lot of the criticism she faces with a grain of salt. </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]145569[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8434944, member: 15700"] This. I won't lie, I had a lot of animus against LW for a long time. Because I heard all these things and believed them. Then Gamergate happened, and I saw how a huge swath of our community reacted towards women. Then I saw comments on forums like Dragonsfoot by posters who made fun of her appearance, rather than what she actually did Then I saw how many of the complaints about her were hearsay without any actual evidence, and in fact, counter evidence came out. Then I saw how [I]today[/I], in the year 2021, how gamers are still reacting towards women and other disparately treated minority groups. Then I think, "Self, if all these toxic attitudes are still going on today, just imagine what she had to deal with in the 80s?" so yeah, while I think it's clear she made some serious mistakes, and absolutely should be taken to task for those, she shouldn't be treated unfairly for things there isn't any proof of, and I am 100% positive that many of those complaints and rumors were because she was a woman in charge and that's it, because we have a mountain of evidence just how toxic many gamers were, and still are. Edit: Here's an example. This was from yesterday. Wesley happened to post a review for Chromatic Dungeons, and this shining star decided to comment on it. Short version? Unless white men are still the centerpiece of a game, then it's not really diverse and just pandering to SJWs. This happened [I]yesterday, [/I]not 1986. Attitudes like this were the norm, rather than exception, in the 80s, so forgive me if I take a lot of the criticism she faces with a grain of salt. [ATTACH type="full"]145569[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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