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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 8435039" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>Adding to my post above, I should add note I agree that the business world at large (and the gaming world specifically) was not particularly fair to women when LW was in charge (or now, for that matter). But that doesn't excuse a lot of the history, for many reasons.</p><p></p><p>First, I think it's possible to be discriminated against and also be a jerk. Just like my earlier post said, I am fine embracing both simultaneously. And IMNSHO the evidence for her being abrasive and narcissistic is too strong to completely file it under misogyny.</p><p></p><p>Second, no amount of bigotry justifies shady business dealings. The Buck Rogers stuff has been brought up a few times already. How the movie rights to D&D were handled is another one we haven't brought up yet. I'd have to dig to find more info, but here's the easiest quick link I could find: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-long-sordid-history-of-d-d-movie-rights.466377/" target="_blank">The Long, Sordid History of D&D Movie Rights</a> I am sure there are others we haven't discussed yet, and none of it can be hidden behind her gender.</p><p></p><p>And finally (I could be wrong on this point) my understanding is that LW was able to obtain her leadership role at TSR because of money she inherited, not money she earned. Maybe it's not completely fair, but this changes my view of hardships that she faced in the business world. Now, she did start at TSR at a more basic level, and she deserves credit for entering the way she did, both on merit of her financial skills and as a female who was likely discriminated against. But she didn't fight her way to the top, she bought her ticket there with family money. And IMNSHO, that puts her in the category of people who are handed (a chance at) success, not those who earned it while battling discrimination.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 8435039, member: 7808"] Adding to my post above, I should add note I agree that the business world at large (and the gaming world specifically) was not particularly fair to women when LW was in charge (or now, for that matter). But that doesn't excuse a lot of the history, for many reasons. First, I think it's possible to be discriminated against and also be a jerk. Just like my earlier post said, I am fine embracing both simultaneously. And IMNSHO the evidence for her being abrasive and narcissistic is too strong to completely file it under misogyny. Second, no amount of bigotry justifies shady business dealings. The Buck Rogers stuff has been brought up a few times already. How the movie rights to D&D were handled is another one we haven't brought up yet. I'd have to dig to find more info, but here's the easiest quick link I could find: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-long-sordid-history-of-d-d-movie-rights.466377/']The Long, Sordid History of D&D Movie Rights[/URL] I am sure there are others we haven't discussed yet, and none of it can be hidden behind her gender. And finally (I could be wrong on this point) my understanding is that LW was able to obtain her leadership role at TSR because of money she inherited, not money she earned. Maybe it's not completely fair, but this changes my view of hardships that she faced in the business world. Now, she did start at TSR at a more basic level, and she deserves credit for entering the way she did, both on merit of her financial skills and as a female who was likely discriminated against. But she didn't fight her way to the top, she bought her ticket there with family money. And IMNSHO, that puts her in the category of people who are handed (a chance at) success, not those who earned it while battling discrimination. [/QUOTE]
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