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Lorraine Williams: Is it Time for a Reevaluation?
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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8436896" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>On the REASONS why she is vilified, it wouldn't have mattered if she was a woman OR a man. Margaret Weiss pre-dates here and overall is very much beloved by fans of Dragonlance.</p><p></p><p>It's not because of her receipts that I see her vilified at all, it's her ACTIONS she took aggressively against others in the RPG community that gave her a bad rep among some. Those actions would have given ANYONE in the same position as her a bad rep, regardless of sex or gender (IMO).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I haven't heard it debunked, just people saying they don't agree with others.</p><p></p><p>And, of course, some who say those who worked with or at TSR or had lawsuits or other interactions should with TSR should not be listened to or have anything validated from them because it puts Mrs. Williams in a bad light.</p><p></p><p>I am not partial to her (more on that below) but most of my personal items are not why others have problems with her, and I can see some good things she did, but I think turning one's head around and plugging their ears to reasons WHY she got vilified (and LONG before TSR went under) isn't really doing people favors.</p><p></p><p>The ONE GOOD thing about her mis-steps that she took in many instances is that they were lessons for those who came afterwards, and many have taken great care to avoid the same mis-steps that she took.</p><p></p><p>One that has avoided the missteps of Mrs. Williams (in my opinon at least) overall has been Lisa Stevens, another lady who leads an RPG company and (I think, at least up until recently at least) has been respected overall in the RPG community.</p><p></p><p>It's NOT that Mrs. Williams was a woman, but certain things she did that have some who dislike what went down with TSR (or T$R as many would put it) during her tenure over it. I feel that ANYONE, man or woman that had such things occur under them would probably ALSO engender the SAME feelings towards them. It was the ACTIONS, NOT the gender that are behind some of the attitudes that people have.</p><p></p><p>Mine also are somewhat biased and personal in general, as she was a total aggressor against Gygax (IMO) and RPG's in general. To ME, it appeared she was leading a crusade against him to drive him out of the business forever if she could, and some of the things that took place REALLY don't sit well with me in that light...but that's more on a personal bias than something I would say is concrete.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 8436896, member: 4348"] On the REASONS why she is vilified, it wouldn't have mattered if she was a woman OR a man. Margaret Weiss pre-dates here and overall is very much beloved by fans of Dragonlance. It's not because of her receipts that I see her vilified at all, it's her ACTIONS she took aggressively against others in the RPG community that gave her a bad rep among some. Those actions would have given ANYONE in the same position as her a bad rep, regardless of sex or gender (IMO). I haven't heard it debunked, just people saying they don't agree with others. And, of course, some who say those who worked with or at TSR or had lawsuits or other interactions should with TSR should not be listened to or have anything validated from them because it puts Mrs. Williams in a bad light. I am not partial to her (more on that below) but most of my personal items are not why others have problems with her, and I can see some good things she did, but I think turning one's head around and plugging their ears to reasons WHY she got vilified (and LONG before TSR went under) isn't really doing people favors. The ONE GOOD thing about her mis-steps that she took in many instances is that they were lessons for those who came afterwards, and many have taken great care to avoid the same mis-steps that she took. One that has avoided the missteps of Mrs. Williams (in my opinon at least) overall has been Lisa Stevens, another lady who leads an RPG company and (I think, at least up until recently at least) has been respected overall in the RPG community. It's NOT that Mrs. Williams was a woman, but certain things she did that have some who dislike what went down with TSR (or T$R as many would put it) during her tenure over it. I feel that ANYONE, man or woman that had such things occur under them would probably ALSO engender the SAME feelings towards them. It was the ACTIONS, NOT the gender that are behind some of the attitudes that people have. Mine also are somewhat biased and personal in general, as she was a total aggressor against Gygax (IMO) and RPG's in general. To ME, it appeared she was leading a crusade against him to drive him out of the business forever if she could, and some of the things that took place REALLY don't sit well with me in that light...but that's more on a personal bias than something I would say is concrete. [/QUOTE]
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