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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8436982" data-attributes="member: 15700">Loved the Endless Quest books.  Not a huge fan of the Greyhawk series.  But as you say, certainly no worse than Gary's own books (which I enjoyed as well, by the way), but it's just another example of two different standards.Which, I'll add, isn't an unusual thing.  Gary did a lot of great things, and not only does he have a lot of fans (and fans don't typically criticize their favorites), he has a healthy amount of people who deify him simply because his name is on the cover.  Those type of people loathe folks like Lorraine because they dared go against Gary, and no amount of factual lists will deter that cultism.  Same with any tribalism or cult following.I was one of those how viewed Gary as could do no wrong in the 80s.  But I was also a teenager.  As I've learned more of what actually happened, I can recognize all the great things Gary did, but also acknowledge all the really bad things, and understand that others like Lorraine, while deserving some criticism, have not deserved what they have gotten.  And like Snarf says, I don't want to be part of the crowd that still lambasts her unfairly, often joking about appearance and weight.  And let's just say that if someone lambasting her also is OK with fatshaming, then I assume their original complaint is...skewed and biased at the very least.</blockquote>