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Lorraine Williams: Is it Time for a Reevaluation?
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8437287" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Saying "there's a REASON" doesn't necessarily make the reason a good one. A lot of what that opinion is based on is made up of demonstrable lies. And a lot appears to be misogyny. And a lot appears to be hero worship of E. Gary Gygax and the fact she's the person that pushed him out. And a lot appears to be scapegoating.</p><p></p><p>No, that doesn't make her a good person or a good CEO - and no one is saying it does.</p><p></p><p>If you have demonstrable facts then bring them. I'd be interested to hear actual facts.</p><p></p><p>If all you have, on the other hand, is insinuations, mud-slinging, and unsourced allegations about someone who has been demonstrably lied about and slandered then adding block capitals does absolutely nothing to help</p><p></p><p>Hint: all we have is you casting aspersions here. And thinking that block capitals makes your case stronger rather than weaker.</p><p></p><p>I have seen no attempted lynching of Gygax here - and the most damning thing about him in this thread is quoting his own words. He however did have feet of clay as well as having done something that was culture-chainging.</p><p></p><p>And from what I can tell what she did wrong was only a few things:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Was the person to take over once Gygax had exhausted all his good will and burned any allies he had left</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Didn't change the policy of They $ue Regularly when the world wide web went mainstream and so felt ham-handed</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Was an at best mediocre CEO</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Like far too many CEOs used her business to benefit her family</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Was a woman and got a lot of hate projected on her.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Got pissed off that there were women in chain mail bikinis, finding it insulting and objectifying</li> </ol><p>That is literally everything I can tell that's a valid criticism of her. And <em>none</em> of it that I can tell is truly damning. Is she in line for any person of the year awards from me? No. Do I think she was a good CEO? No. Do I feel she was a malevolent force worthy of multi-page screeds? Not for any reason I've seen. Possibly you have others - but writing in caps doesn't make me think there are any.</p><p></p><p>And I try to defend people being slandered <em>irrespective of whether they're good people.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8437287, member: 87792"] Saying "there's a REASON" doesn't necessarily make the reason a good one. A lot of what that opinion is based on is made up of demonstrable lies. And a lot appears to be misogyny. And a lot appears to be hero worship of E. Gary Gygax and the fact she's the person that pushed him out. And a lot appears to be scapegoating. No, that doesn't make her a good person or a good CEO - and no one is saying it does. If you have demonstrable facts then bring them. I'd be interested to hear actual facts. If all you have, on the other hand, is insinuations, mud-slinging, and unsourced allegations about someone who has been demonstrably lied about and slandered then adding block capitals does absolutely nothing to help Hint: all we have is you casting aspersions here. And thinking that block capitals makes your case stronger rather than weaker. I have seen no attempted lynching of Gygax here - and the most damning thing about him in this thread is quoting his own words. He however did have feet of clay as well as having done something that was culture-chainging. And from what I can tell what she did wrong was only a few things: [LIST=1] [*]Was the person to take over once Gygax had exhausted all his good will and burned any allies he had left [*]Didn't change the policy of They $ue Regularly when the world wide web went mainstream and so felt ham-handed [*]Was an at best mediocre CEO [*]Like far too many CEOs used her business to benefit her family [*]Was a woman and got a lot of hate projected on her. [*]Got pissed off that there were women in chain mail bikinis, finding it insulting and objectifying [/LIST] That is literally everything I can tell that's a valid criticism of her. And [I]none[/I] of it that I can tell is truly damning. Is she in line for any person of the year awards from me? No. Do I think she was a good CEO? No. Do I feel she was a malevolent force worthy of multi-page screeds? Not for any reason I've seen. Possibly you have others - but writing in caps doesn't make me think there are any. And I try to defend people being slandered [I]irrespective of whether they're good people.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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