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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7832932" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Yeah, I actually <em>have </em>the module, so I've read it...</p><p></p><p>And you've completely missed the point. That orange cover was recalled. Because of how it was made. The warning bells were sounded by the people in that article I linked, and they were ignored because Jean and Gary were friends and she told Gary to tell everyone else to lay off. So they did. And guess what happened? Total disaster. It had to be recalled and dumped in the landfill.</p><p></p><p>But hey, keep attacking the people that were there instead of looking at the actual facts of what happened to that module. Ad hominems never go out of style.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What happened before absolutely is relevant. If you're handed a dumpster fire, how reasonable is it for you to fix it completely and long term, compared to if you're handed a solid business with tons of cashflow? That makes a world of difference, regardless of the industry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The opposite? Have you even read your own forums you're a moderator of? Just look at the the responses in this thread. I don't even have to link to those other threads where it seems Lorraine gets all the blame (like a week or two ago when there was a dumping on her with comments like "Was there anything she touched that she didn't destroy?"). I have no idea how you can say it's the opposite of that. Especially since the responses in this very thread prove otherwise.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The settings didn't destroy TSR, or lead to it's ruin. Getting hit with Random Houses's fees are what did it. That one act dumped TSR with a ton of debt, and those fees are directly tied to overproducing novels and dragon dice. If not for the novels and dragon dice (and therefore the fees), TSR would have been in much healthier financials.</p><p></p><p>.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>></p><p></p><p>I'm not excusing her bad decisions, as I said in my OP. But the comments here seem to prove what I was saying. She gets all of the blame, none of the recognition for the good things that happened under her watch, and Blume and Gary barely even get acknowledged about how TSR would have had to sell before Lorraine even joined, and that only happens if you force people to acknowledge it. If not for Williams, TSR would have went bankrupt and dissolved in the mid 80s.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7832932, member: 15700"] Yeah, I actually [I]have [/I]the module, so I've read it... And you've completely missed the point. That orange cover was recalled. Because of how it was made. The warning bells were sounded by the people in that article I linked, and they were ignored because Jean and Gary were friends and she told Gary to tell everyone else to lay off. So they did. And guess what happened? Total disaster. It had to be recalled and dumped in the landfill. But hey, keep attacking the people that were there instead of looking at the actual facts of what happened to that module. Ad hominems never go out of style. What happened before absolutely is relevant. If you're handed a dumpster fire, how reasonable is it for you to fix it completely and long term, compared to if you're handed a solid business with tons of cashflow? That makes a world of difference, regardless of the industry. The opposite? Have you even read your own forums you're a moderator of? Just look at the the responses in this thread. I don't even have to link to those other threads where it seems Lorraine gets all the blame (like a week or two ago when there was a dumping on her with comments like "Was there anything she touched that she didn't destroy?"). I have no idea how you can say it's the opposite of that. Especially since the responses in this very thread prove otherwise. The settings didn't destroy TSR, or lead to it's ruin. Getting hit with Random Houses's fees are what did it. That one act dumped TSR with a ton of debt, and those fees are directly tied to overproducing novels and dragon dice. If not for the novels and dragon dice (and therefore the fees), TSR would have been in much healthier financials. .>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not excusing her bad decisions, as I said in my OP. But the comments here seem to prove what I was saying. She gets all of the blame, none of the recognition for the good things that happened under her watch, and Blume and Gary barely even get acknowledged about how TSR would have had to sell before Lorraine even joined, and that only happens if you force people to acknowledge it. If not for Williams, TSR would have went bankrupt and dissolved in the mid 80s. [/QUOTE]
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