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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7833368" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>Gary avoids a lot if gate because he invented the game and wasn't in the driver's seat at corporate. </p><p></p><p>Blumes and Lorraine both saved D&D but Lorraine destroyed TSR. </p><p></p><p>Random House was a big reason TSR went to nder but the reason they didn't have the cash flow was a combination of producing crap.</p><p></p><p>The multiple lines were a problem, there's a reason WotC killed them.</p><p></p><p>Some were being sold at a loss (Planescape) and each line got a novel line, adventures and other tie in material. </p><p></p><p> If WoTC ever brings then back expect 1-2 books and an adventure that's it roughly. </p><p></p><p> Lorraine also gets the heat for forcing Gary out, gamers like him not her. No other designer since has the same relationship with the fans although Monte might be close. Gary's name is in all of the big selling modules and forwards on the books.</p><p></p><p>Gary designed product that sold, the suits messed it up. </p><p></p><p> Even in the frog sites never encountered comments about Lorraine's gender she's hated because if what she did and because of 2E.</p><p></p><p>If you want real gate there was Knights and Knaves which was bad blood dating back to the 70s. That was personal with people picking sides. </p><p></p><p> Not saying Jean and the others didn't suffer from sexism, it was a different time and done of the guys sound like asshats. </p><p></p><p>But yeah that art in 81 or whatever it's a problem. Notice 5E has sanitized art there's a reason and it was in 2014. </p><p></p><p> They got away with it when D&D was small the original art on OD&D covers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7833368, member: 6716779"] Gary avoids a lot if gate because he invented the game and wasn't in the driver's seat at corporate. Blumes and Lorraine both saved D&D but Lorraine destroyed TSR. Random House was a big reason TSR went to nder but the reason they didn't have the cash flow was a combination of producing crap. The multiple lines were a problem, there's a reason WotC killed them. Some were being sold at a loss (Planescape) and each line got a novel line, adventures and other tie in material. If WoTC ever brings then back expect 1-2 books and an adventure that's it roughly. Lorraine also gets the heat for forcing Gary out, gamers like him not her. No other designer since has the same relationship with the fans although Monte might be close. Gary's name is in all of the big selling modules and forwards on the books. Gary designed product that sold, the suits messed it up. Even in the frog sites never encountered comments about Lorraine's gender she's hated because if what she did and because of 2E. If you want real gate there was Knights and Knaves which was bad blood dating back to the 70s. That was personal with people picking sides. Not saying Jean and the others didn't suffer from sexism, it was a different time and done of the guys sound like asshats. But yeah that art in 81 or whatever it's a problem. Notice 5E has sanitized art there's a reason and it was in 2014. They got away with it when D&D was small the original art on OD&D covers. [/QUOTE]
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