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<blockquote data-quote="Henadic Theologian" data-source="post: 9802587" data-attributes="member: 7030526"><p>Yeah its different from D&D Changelings (Changelings are in FR as well, see Orin) by being mechanically terrible. </p><p></p><p> Am I the only one very unimpressed by most of this DLC?</p><p></p><p> Okay so I want to be fair so I'll start with the pros.</p><p></p><p> 1. Ice Genasi are well designed mechanically, especially the whole making the flame blade spell cold. Great choice for White/Silver Dragon Sorcerers.</p><p></p><p> 2. I liked both of the Elf lineages, as well that Halflings get Darkvision in Shadowmoore and they buffed Fairies Darkvision to 120 feet.</p><p></p><p> 3. The backgrounds and feats are well designed.</p><p></p><p> 4. In general the player options are the most consistently good of all the Bundles Products</p><p></p><p> 5. There is some really nice art.</p><p></p><p> Cons-</p><p></p><p> 1. Lorwyn being a Domain of Delight is mentioned no where nor is Fearun, so I feel mislead. This is so disconnected from the rest of the bundle, they should have had a FR themed DLC for the 3rd one, perhaps on exploring a region of Faerun that could have used more love or at least Domain of Delight with a lore connection to FR like Domain of Dreas Hazlan. The disconnect is jarring and it gets worse.</p><p></p><p> 2. I get why they didn't use regular Changelings, but the design of Lorwyn Changelings are terrible. </p><p></p><p> 3. No playable Noogles</p><p></p><p> 4. Phyrexian, seriously Forgotten Realms none MtG fans are going to be like wtf is a Phyrexian. If they felt like they needed to maintain the basic storyline THE RUSTED ARE RIGHT THERE IN FR: AiF!!! Use them. Are Phyrexians Forgotten Realms canon now? Or are Rusted kind of like Temu Phyrexians?</p><p></p><p>5. Alot of the expectations for this product was based on the marketing including the product description for Lorwyn: First Light being a Domain of Delight, again, its not mentioned anywhere in the product, this was never designed to be a Domain of Delight. The only place the Feywild is mentioned is the monster descriptions for where Noogles and Incarnations are native too.</p><p></p><p>6. No explanation for what happens to a Noogle if you drag it into Lorwyn or other Shadowmoore natives. Also no mention of Changelings becoming nasty mimics in Shadowmoore which is why they avoid it (honestly Changelings should have been the monster only race and Noogles should have been playable for that reason).</p><p></p><p> 7. No mention of Hags or other Shadowmoore monsters that are right in the card sets. Honestly I'd have used Archhags for the Faerie Queens too mechanically.</p><p></p><p>8. The two Lorwyn-Shadowmoore Gods are just Ancient Dragons. No talk in either section of say Clerics and other divine casters getting their powers from them or the Demigods of the setting who seemed to have gone AWAL. Also using the Ancient Dragon stat blocks suggest alignments unfitting to these true neutral or even unaligned beings.</p><p></p><p>7. The Relics should have been +1 holy symbols in addition to their current purpose for their respective Gods at minimiumal.</p><p></p><p>8. FlameRimerCinder/Etc...kin should have been mechanically unique, not just Genasi.</p><p></p><p>9. Kithkin should also have been a separate species, instead the Mindweft gets zero mechanical support.</p><p></p><p>10. Why is this in a Forgotten Realms Bundle, its like they did this thing and couldn't figure out what to do with so they will throw it in with the over priced FR Bundle so people won't be so mad at the price.</p><p></p><p>11. This is a digital product, they were way too stingy on using Lorwyn-Shadowmoore in it given they don't have to print it.</p><p></p><p>12. Could have use Shadowmoore & Lorwyn random encounter tables.</p><p></p><p>13. For $15 digital only product 32 pages is just insulting, this is mot value for money.</p><p></p><p>14. I like the idea of DLCs, but this is not a good example of that idea.</p><p></p><p> 15. Where are the Demigods</p><p></p><p> 16. The Incarnations should have been designed more like Ravnican Horrors, so they a greater variety of them could get represented.</p><p> </p><p> I think both FR fans and Lorwyn fans will be disappointed by this product.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henadic Theologian, post: 9802587, member: 7030526"] Yeah its different from D&D Changelings (Changelings are in FR as well, see Orin) by being mechanically terrible. Am I the only one very unimpressed by most of this DLC? Okay so I want to be fair so I'll start with the pros. 1. Ice Genasi are well designed mechanically, especially the whole making the flame blade spell cold. Great choice for White/Silver Dragon Sorcerers. 2. I liked both of the Elf lineages, as well that Halflings get Darkvision in Shadowmoore and they buffed Fairies Darkvision to 120 feet. 3. The backgrounds and feats are well designed. 4. In general the player options are the most consistently good of all the Bundles Products 5. There is some really nice art. Cons- 1. Lorwyn being a Domain of Delight is mentioned no where nor is Fearun, so I feel mislead. This is so disconnected from the rest of the bundle, they should have had a FR themed DLC for the 3rd one, perhaps on exploring a region of Faerun that could have used more love or at least Domain of Delight with a lore connection to FR like Domain of Dreas Hazlan. The disconnect is jarring and it gets worse. 2. I get why they didn't use regular Changelings, but the design of Lorwyn Changelings are terrible. 3. No playable Noogles 4. Phyrexian, seriously Forgotten Realms none MtG fans are going to be like wtf is a Phyrexian. If they felt like they needed to maintain the basic storyline THE RUSTED ARE RIGHT THERE IN FR: AiF!!! Use them. Are Phyrexians Forgotten Realms canon now? Or are Rusted kind of like Temu Phyrexians? 5. Alot of the expectations for this product was based on the marketing including the product description for Lorwyn: First Light being a Domain of Delight, again, its not mentioned anywhere in the product, this was never designed to be a Domain of Delight. The only place the Feywild is mentioned is the monster descriptions for where Noogles and Incarnations are native too. 6. No explanation for what happens to a Noogle if you drag it into Lorwyn or other Shadowmoore natives. Also no mention of Changelings becoming nasty mimics in Shadowmoore which is why they avoid it (honestly Changelings should have been the monster only race and Noogles should have been playable for that reason). 7. No mention of Hags or other Shadowmoore monsters that are right in the card sets. Honestly I'd have used Archhags for the Faerie Queens too mechanically. 8. The two Lorwyn-Shadowmoore Gods are just Ancient Dragons. No talk in either section of say Clerics and other divine casters getting their powers from them or the Demigods of the setting who seemed to have gone AWAL. Also using the Ancient Dragon stat blocks suggest alignments unfitting to these true neutral or even unaligned beings. 7. The Relics should have been +1 holy symbols in addition to their current purpose for their respective Gods at minimiumal. 8. FlameRimerCinder/Etc...kin should have been mechanically unique, not just Genasi. 9. Kithkin should also have been a separate species, instead the Mindweft gets zero mechanical support. 10. Why is this in a Forgotten Realms Bundle, its like they did this thing and couldn't figure out what to do with so they will throw it in with the over priced FR Bundle so people won't be so mad at the price. 11. This is a digital product, they were way too stingy on using Lorwyn-Shadowmoore in it given they don't have to print it. 12. Could have use Shadowmoore & Lorwyn random encounter tables. 13. For $15 digital only product 32 pages is just insulting, this is mot value for money. 14. I like the idea of DLCs, but this is not a good example of that idea. 15. Where are the Demigods 16. The Incarnations should have been designed more like Ravnican Horrors, so they a greater variety of them could get represented. I think both FR fans and Lorwyn fans will be disappointed by this product. [/QUOTE]
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