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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ogre" data-source="post: 3467681" data-attributes="member: 4671">My experience? It took a while. Getting used to how to 'see' depth up close, you have to learn to look for different clues, at first conciously then it becomes subconcious. For instance, the simple task of stepping off a street curb was at first disorienting, but after adjusting to moving my head slideways a little, I could see it's depth and walk along normally. Anyway, to answer your question in game terms, I'd say at first, a -4 penalty to melee would be in order, and if you trained and worked at it, maybe a month to lower it to a -2, which I would say would be the best you could do. I can still get lazy and reach for a beer and misfire, smacking the bottle, thinking it was farther away than it really is. And mock fighting with soft swords has been a real adventure, I'm still pretty good at it, but I can occasionally hit too hard or miss altogether in the heat of battle  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> .So all in all, I'd say if you were dillagent and worked at it, one month to compensate consiously and learn the 'tricks', probably a year or two before it becomes second nature. My (at least percieved by me anyway lol) improved perifial vision took years to come about.Though, like Darklone said, I wouldn't necessarily restrict heroic characters from being able to overcome all penalties if they trained hard enough and the DM approves. I have never trained, at least in sword fighting, but amazingly enough, I can still play ping pong, softball and volley ball just as well as before (after adjusting of course), but I do occasionaly make 'swish' attacks, completely missing. But then again, I don't really practice. I completely agree with this assesment. I think the only reasoning to imply a -2 penalty would be to incorporate an overall penalty to take into account the 'blind spot'. But your right, it really boils down to how much you are looking around and remain actively aware. In my experience, if I am being alert, I can spot things without any handicap, but... if I'm being lazy or non-attentive, I can walk past a counter and bang into the corner or knock something or run into someone, coming up on my blind spot. So yeah, its all about situational awareness. The cyclops just needs to be more proactive about it.</blockquote>

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