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<blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 3987638" data-attributes="member: 40245"><p>Two things... First, this is of course assuming that the PCs spot the messangers first (as opposed to discovering the messages themselves on a newly dead guys desk and also are not aware that there is even a dragon in the area. What are the PCs doing in the area with "nothing" to be able to discover the messengers in the first place?</p><p></p><p>Second, the party may very well want to follow the messengers to learn more about who/what the minions are working for. This will just build up the dragon as a BerBerEerD (Bigger Badder Eviler Dragon) since the PCs will have been working on the case longer and there will be a more complex story since they know about the messangers, conspirators and the Evil Plot. I see this as a very good thing.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait... What?</p><p></p><p>Isn't that what a minion is? A lacky who does something so the BBEG doesn't have to? If a draogn is trying to keep itself safe and not risk exposure of any kind (as I get the impression you want it to - I could be wrong) then of course it will have minions do everything. That's what minions are for - to do things and to die horribly so the main villain can be lazy and safe. If the BBEG needs to do everything then what's the point of having minions?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends entirely on the society in question. If it's a swamp based city -> kobold. If they have to go through sewers -> kobold. If they have to walk through city steets unnoticed -> not kobold. A sufficently powerful Evil Guy could easily have access to both types.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So higher level PCs aren't allowed to save small villages? There are plenty of reasons why a higher level dragon would be attacking a smaller village: from it being a small piece of a plot hatched by a higher mastermind (so the 15th level critter is it itself a minion) to the fact that the small village isn't all it seems (sitting on top of a gold mine or a mostly forgotten tomb of a powerful wizard that the dragon has learned about) to the comedic value of the fact that it's a very lazy dragon and doesn't want to get shot at by the city's catapults.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jedi_Solo, post: 3987638, member: 40245"] Two things... First, this is of course assuming that the PCs spot the messangers first (as opposed to discovering the messages themselves on a newly dead guys desk and also are not aware that there is even a dragon in the area. What are the PCs doing in the area with "nothing" to be able to discover the messengers in the first place? Second, the party may very well want to follow the messengers to learn more about who/what the minions are working for. This will just build up the dragon as a BerBerEerD (Bigger Badder Eviler Dragon) since the PCs will have been working on the case longer and there will be a more complex story since they know about the messangers, conspirators and the Evil Plot. I see this as a very good thing. Wait... What? Isn't that what a minion is? A lacky who does something so the BBEG doesn't have to? If a draogn is trying to keep itself safe and not risk exposure of any kind (as I get the impression you want it to - I could be wrong) then of course it will have minions do everything. That's what minions are for - to do things and to die horribly so the main villain can be lazy and safe. If the BBEG needs to do everything then what's the point of having minions? Depends entirely on the society in question. If it's a swamp based city -> kobold. If they have to go through sewers -> kobold. If they have to walk through city steets unnoticed -> not kobold. A sufficently powerful Evil Guy could easily have access to both types. So higher level PCs aren't allowed to save small villages? There are plenty of reasons why a higher level dragon would be attacking a smaller village: from it being a small piece of a plot hatched by a higher mastermind (so the 15th level critter is it itself a minion) to the fact that the small village isn't all it seems (sitting on top of a gold mine or a mostly forgotten tomb of a powerful wizard that the dragon has learned about) to the comedic value of the fact that it's a very lazy dragon and doesn't want to get shot at by the city's catapults. [/QUOTE]
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