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<blockquote data-quote="Propheous_D" data-source="post: 3988484" data-attributes="member: 58952"><p>*sighs in a grand way giving the impression of a teacher who is tried by the stubborness of a student who just is not opening his mind*</p><p></p><p>Blindsight 60 ft = 120ft radius chamber for sleeping. No possible way to sneak up on dragon with out his attention being generated. All entrances to chambers are plugged thus requiring some strength and noise to remove, less they are disintegrated. To further allow for situations were plugs are disintigrated there is a heavy object on the top of the plug that would fall when the plug failed thus making a loud noise, temor, or displacement of material alerting the dragon.</p><p></p><p>Simple non-magical and VERY effective at keeping the dragon alive and alert to intruders. Can it be penetrated of course, but then again any defence can be penetrated.</p><p></p><p>The next part communication.</p><p></p><p>Why do people require dragons to take human form to communicate to thier operatives? Once a dragon interests one individual he can EASILY with his treasure gather an entire army and network with very little effort. As for getting in touch with his cohorts that is again easily done through messengers, and SIGNS. When the fire is raised on the hill north at dusk you know I shall be calling upon you. Similarily when the green smoke rises from the chimney of your home I know you have something to report to me. We meet at the prearranged clearing where I simply fly to.</p><p></p><p></p><p>One more thing we are talking about spells that make a wizard about 5-10th level or so. WHY can't a dragon simply make a deal or befriend such a wizard. They are small weak and snackable to a dragon, while the dragon can offer them access to power, wealth, protection, components, amd most importantly KNOWLEDGE.</p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p>Wizard and his 2 body guards are traveling form one town to the other. The dragon swoops in eats said weak bodygaurds and snatches young wizard to take to a rocky ledge were he starts his deal making. If the wizard seems uninterested well he is boney but atleast he might be tasty.</p><p>Example 2:</p><p>Good dragon lands before a local hedge wizard who has been frequenting his woods. He simply talks with said wizard and they rendevous now and again to discuss the weather and offer each other assitance and mutual benefit.</p><p></p><p>Nothing anyone has said here makes me think that anything is lost by a dragon not having some crappy levels in spell casting.</p><p></p><p>Oh yeah which person said a dragon can not escape a combat... THEY CAN FLY!!!!!!!!! while alot of adventures can as well something tells me that the dragon stands a good chance of winning a chase either by cunningly seperating the foes or lining them up for a nice beath weapon or two.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Propheous_D, post: 3988484, member: 58952"] *sighs in a grand way giving the impression of a teacher who is tried by the stubborness of a student who just is not opening his mind* Blindsight 60 ft = 120ft radius chamber for sleeping. No possible way to sneak up on dragon with out his attention being generated. All entrances to chambers are plugged thus requiring some strength and noise to remove, less they are disintegrated. To further allow for situations were plugs are disintigrated there is a heavy object on the top of the plug that would fall when the plug failed thus making a loud noise, temor, or displacement of material alerting the dragon. Simple non-magical and VERY effective at keeping the dragon alive and alert to intruders. Can it be penetrated of course, but then again any defence can be penetrated. The next part communication. Why do people require dragons to take human form to communicate to thier operatives? Once a dragon interests one individual he can EASILY with his treasure gather an entire army and network with very little effort. As for getting in touch with his cohorts that is again easily done through messengers, and SIGNS. When the fire is raised on the hill north at dusk you know I shall be calling upon you. Similarily when the green smoke rises from the chimney of your home I know you have something to report to me. We meet at the prearranged clearing where I simply fly to. One more thing we are talking about spells that make a wizard about 5-10th level or so. WHY can't a dragon simply make a deal or befriend such a wizard. They are small weak and snackable to a dragon, while the dragon can offer them access to power, wealth, protection, components, amd most importantly KNOWLEDGE. Example: Wizard and his 2 body guards are traveling form one town to the other. The dragon swoops in eats said weak bodygaurds and snatches young wizard to take to a rocky ledge were he starts his deal making. If the wizard seems uninterested well he is boney but atleast he might be tasty. Example 2: Good dragon lands before a local hedge wizard who has been frequenting his woods. He simply talks with said wizard and they rendevous now and again to discuss the weather and offer each other assitance and mutual benefit. Nothing anyone has said here makes me think that anything is lost by a dragon not having some crappy levels in spell casting. Oh yeah which person said a dragon can not escape a combat... THEY CAN FLY!!!!!!!!! while alot of adventures can as well something tells me that the dragon stands a good chance of winning a chase either by cunningly seperating the foes or lining them up for a nice beath weapon or two. [/QUOTE]
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