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Loss of Innate Spellcasting (or 'How Dragons Build Lairs')
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<blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 3992445" data-attributes="member: 18490"><p>Ain't this the truth?</p><p></p><p>Some things I've learned in this thread:</p><p></p><p>1) If all dragons aren't archmages, they are inconsequential creatures at best</p><p></p><p>2) It is better for the rules to make every dragon a powerful spellcaster than to allow such an option for those GMs who want it (i.e. giving dragons caster levels or wizard training)</p><p></p><p>3) If a few GMs want all dragons to be powerful spellcasters, the rules have to make it so - even if that is not what most GMs would like</p><p></p><p>4) If a BBEG uses minions of any kind, he isn't really an BBEG</p><p></p><p>5) Only spellcasters can be major villains - everyone else is too weak</p><p></p><p>6) It is too much trouble to construct a good story - every creature should be given enough magic to make good plotlines unnecessary</p><p></p><p>7) No matter how many viable scenarios are given to disprove a point, even more ridiculous (and tenuous) arguments can be constructed to argue ever more minor details in order to hold onto the original point</p><p></p><p>In 28 years of GMing (and too many dragon scenarios to count), I have never used a dragon BBEG who relied on magic, eschewed minions or experienced the kind of bizarre problems I've seen trotted out in this thread.</p><p></p><p>If some GMs want their dragon BBEG to be powerful spellcasters, rules exist to make it so. No one is telling you not to. As for the rest of us, we don't need them. Dragon spellcasting has always been so weak that they are insignificant to the overall power of the dragon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kennew142, post: 3992445, member: 18490"] Ain't this the truth? Some things I've learned in this thread: 1) If all dragons aren't archmages, they are inconsequential creatures at best 2) It is better for the rules to make every dragon a powerful spellcaster than to allow such an option for those GMs who want it (i.e. giving dragons caster levels or wizard training) 3) If a few GMs want all dragons to be powerful spellcasters, the rules have to make it so - even if that is not what most GMs would like 4) If a BBEG uses minions of any kind, he isn't really an BBEG 5) Only spellcasters can be major villains - everyone else is too weak 6) It is too much trouble to construct a good story - every creature should be given enough magic to make good plotlines unnecessary 7) No matter how many viable scenarios are given to disprove a point, even more ridiculous (and tenuous) arguments can be constructed to argue ever more minor details in order to hold onto the original point In 28 years of GMing (and too many dragon scenarios to count), I have never used a dragon BBEG who relied on magic, eschewed minions or experienced the kind of bizarre problems I've seen trotted out in this thread. If some GMs want their dragon BBEG to be powerful spellcasters, rules exist to make it so. No one is telling you not to. As for the rest of us, we don't need them. Dragon spellcasting has always been so weak that they are insignificant to the overall power of the dragon. [/QUOTE]
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