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<blockquote data-quote="vagabundo" data-source="post: 3995991" data-attributes="member: 55864"><p>The amount of cohesion that you seem to require would need a very complete write-up, more time that I can give (still I will see what I can put together over the next few days), but is easily done. Although enough examples have been given in both threads that a little imagination could flesh out the rest. </p><p></p><p>All that is required for a Dragon to influence human society and even rule a human kingdom is its intellect and long life. Through patience and its innate powers it could easily dominate small town or merchant guild and work up from there.</p><p></p><p>Most of your issues seem to hinge on a rejection of the dragon by humans, the fact that they would all wish for its destruction. I think you underestimate how people would react to the situation and how easily a dragon could manipulate the fears, greed and flaws of people to construct a huge network in quite a short time. And then maintain that network for generations. </p><p></p><p>Very few in the network may know that it is ruled by a dragon, its influence (through bribery and assassination) could spread much further than its membership would know.</p><p></p><p>Some dragons will have no interest in such a power, they might desire the freedom of flight and the hunt. Certainly there would be many different types of dragon personalities and some would, as you indicated above, be throw away encounters. But only if you as a DM want that to happen. </p><p></p><p>For those dragons that are inclined, their intellect and diplomacy are their main weapons ,not the combat powers and certainly not the handful of spells that dragons in 3.5e know. </p><p></p><p>Having the power over several towns or a kingdom and their armies, legions of spies, multiple lairs that it moves randomly too. Access and the money to have custom magic items created for it by the best mages money can buy. </p><p></p><p>With this behind it, and without insider help, there is no way that Adventures would get with bow shot of the dragon before they were assassinated or imprisoned.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vagabundo, post: 3995991, member: 55864"] The amount of cohesion that you seem to require would need a very complete write-up, more time that I can give (still I will see what I can put together over the next few days), but is easily done. Although enough examples have been given in both threads that a little imagination could flesh out the rest. All that is required for a Dragon to influence human society and even rule a human kingdom is its intellect and long life. Through patience and its innate powers it could easily dominate small town or merchant guild and work up from there. Most of your issues seem to hinge on a rejection of the dragon by humans, the fact that they would all wish for its destruction. I think you underestimate how people would react to the situation and how easily a dragon could manipulate the fears, greed and flaws of people to construct a huge network in quite a short time. And then maintain that network for generations. Very few in the network may know that it is ruled by a dragon, its influence (through bribery and assassination) could spread much further than its membership would know. Some dragons will have no interest in such a power, they might desire the freedom of flight and the hunt. Certainly there would be many different types of dragon personalities and some would, as you indicated above, be throw away encounters. But only if you as a DM want that to happen. For those dragons that are inclined, their intellect and diplomacy are their main weapons ,not the combat powers and certainly not the handful of spells that dragons in 3.5e know. Having the power over several towns or a kingdom and their armies, legions of spies, multiple lairs that it moves randomly too. Access and the money to have custom magic items created for it by the best mages money can buy. With this behind it, and without insider help, there is no way that Adventures would get with bow shot of the dragon before they were assassinated or imprisoned. [/QUOTE]
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