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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 3999928" data-attributes="member: 2518"><p>When you read my other posts you will see that I think that every dragon, in order to behave like they did in previous (including this) edition need magic as it lacks other resources. And to me it is incoherent when a creature lacks a ability which is necessary for its role. Otherwise it leads to very silly things unless houseruled (for example see 3E Mind Flayers. By lore they dominate other creatures to make them their slaves. But they lack any ability to dominate. For me that is incoherent. Same with dragons. They are very often masterminds or at least have trapped lairs and magical wards. But without magic there is no way that they could have placed this wards. So either every dragon has magic or every dragon has minions. In 4E this would both be houserules as dragons are non spellcasting solo encounters.</p><p></p><p>Another thing. Those who say that dragons casting spells are rare in real life mythology should consider that dragons having minions is even more rare.</p><p></p><p>It is arbitrary when the DM does not have any limits on what the dragon has. Say he does set up trapped lairs, spy networks etc. and explains everything with "the dragon has rituals for that". Now the PCs find a loophole. Can the dragon now counteract the loophole with the rituals it has? No matter how the DMs decides it is arbitrary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Derren, post: 3999928, member: 2518"] When you read my other posts you will see that I think that every dragon, in order to behave like they did in previous (including this) edition need magic as it lacks other resources. And to me it is incoherent when a creature lacks a ability which is necessary for its role. Otherwise it leads to very silly things unless houseruled (for example see 3E Mind Flayers. By lore they dominate other creatures to make them their slaves. But they lack any ability to dominate. For me that is incoherent. Same with dragons. They are very often masterminds or at least have trapped lairs and magical wards. But without magic there is no way that they could have placed this wards. So either every dragon has magic or every dragon has minions. In 4E this would both be houserules as dragons are non spellcasting solo encounters. Another thing. Those who say that dragons casting spells are rare in real life mythology should consider that dragons having minions is even more rare. It is arbitrary when the DM does not have any limits on what the dragon has. Say he does set up trapped lairs, spy networks etc. and explains everything with "the dragon has rituals for that". Now the PCs find a loophole. Can the dragon now counteract the loophole with the rituals it has? No matter how the DMs decides it is arbitrary. [/QUOTE]
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