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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bumamgar" data-source="post: 6368508" data-attributes="member: 38648">My players are char-opers...  That said, what an analysis of their characters shows to me is that 4d6 drop lowest tends to give arrays that are a bit higher than point buy.  Folks around here seem to think point buy is the one-true way, but frankly, even the PHB defaults to 4d6 drop the lowest and mentions point-buy as an option for players who don't want random stats.  I also am a DM who rolls HP for monsters and damage, rather than using the average HP / Damage in the stat-blocks.  Characters roll HP when they level up as well.The barbarian is a Half-Orc, +2 str, +1 con for totals of Str 16, Dex 15, Con 18, Int 10, Wis 13, Cha 13.  Pre-race that's an array of 17, 15, 14, 13, 13, 10.  Uses the Longsword +1 from the Nothic's treasure, and a normal shield, for an AC of 18 and +6 Atk, 1d8+4 dmg.The monk is a wood elf, +2 dex, +1 wis for totals of Str 15, Dex 20, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 14.  Pre-race that's an array of 18, 15, 15, 15, 14, 10 (that's a bit high, but I watched the rolls!).  Uses the Ring of Protection +1 looted off the Red Wizard for an AC of 19 and a normal shortsword (monk weapon/finesse) for +7 Atk, 1d6+5 dmg and unarmed strike of +7 atk, 1d4+5 dmgThe wizard is a high elf, +2 dex, +1 int for totals of Str 12, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 18, Wis 13, Cha 7.  Pre-race that's an array of 17, 16, 14, 13, 12, 7.  Uses the Staff of Defense taken from Iarno, for an AC of 15 (18 w/ Mage Armor).The ranger is a wood elf, +2 dex, +1 wis for totals of Str 13, Dex 18, Con 15, Int 14, Wis 18, Cha 13.  Pre-race that's an array of 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 13.  Wears no armor, for an AC of 14 (17 w/ mage armor) and uses a Longbow for +8 Atk, 1d8+4 damage.  (Fighting Style: Archery)As for high attributes being overpowered, I would argue that they are not OP, rather, they are simply front-loaded.  In other words, these characters will hit the 20 ceiling faster than point-buy characters, but that ceiling still exists, so there's not going to be much difference between these characters attributes vs point-buy characters by level 8 or so.</blockquote>

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