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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xath" data-source="post: 1538868" data-attributes="member: 17040">I like the overall idea, but there are several holes that I would like to poke in this from a book perspective. While it is completely possible for Aragorn and the entirety of the army to be destroyed, Gandalf is another thing entirely.  Mithrandir is a Maia, one of the Valar who chose to remain in Middle-Earth.  Thus he is immortal and cannot be completely destroyed.  Sauron is also a Maia, however, since he poured so much of his power into the making of the ring, if the ring is destroyed, it is then possible to kill Sauron.  This also goes into the song (if you've never read the Silmarillion, this won't make any sense) in a sense that no creatures aside from the race of Men(including haflings) have free will.  Since the Maia were once Valar and were the ones who played the song, they have some ability to manipulate their chosen paths in the fate-intwined Middle-Earth.  But if they stray from their appointed path, then there is an opening in the song for them to be written out.  Thus, Morgoth brought dischord to the song, putting an opening for his death.  Saruman forsook his path as the head of the Council of the Wise, his staff was broken, and there was an opening for his death.  Sauron poured all of his power into the ring, an opening for his death.  Gandalf, on the other hand, has followed the song he helped to create, and makes several references to that fact throughout the books.  He can't die.  If his body is killed, he will be reborn, just as he was in Moria.If Aragorn is dead, then so are Faramir, Eowyn, and Merry.Firstly, I'd like to point out that in the books, Frodo did fail.That out of the way, you would want to change the manner in which Frodo fails.  The most probable course is that Frodo was victorious in his fight with Smeagol and claimed the ring for himself.  When Frodo put on the ring, Sauron immediately knew where he was and undoubtably would have sent forces to retrieve it.  Insane Frodo, ring on hand, would most likely have killed Sam after killing Gollum.  Even though Sam could have beaten Frodo in a fight, he would do nothing to hurt his master.  By himself, with no idea how to tap into the power of the ring, Frodo would have been easy prey for Sauron.  Thus chances are, that Sauron would have the ring.If Sauron has the ring, then Lothlorien and Rivendell are immediately lost.  They were made with the power of rings linked to the one, and through the one, Sauron can twist those creations.  This said, Galadriel, Elrond, and Gandalf would immediately know that Sauron had obtained the ring, and they would know to get rid of their rings as quickly as possible.My 2 cents from a book perspective.  But as the GM, you have the right to do anything you want.</blockquote>

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